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Thanks for the replies. Mirroring the coin was indeed done because of the character I interpreted as a mirrored D - the reading of @Shanxi is convincing as well (EVOLACVS_
Here are both the original and the mirrored again:
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A few days ago, a friend of mine who recently started his own coinshop, contacted me. He had just bought a pseudo-coin brooch from a metal-detectorist from Zeeland, the Netherlands (south-west, just above Belgium). Knowing my interest in early medieval coinage from the North-sea region, he gave me the opportunity to buy it before putting it online.
I hesitated a bit, as it was a) not a coin, and b) expensive. But it was just too cool to pass (excellent condition, no damage apart from the broken iron pin, very 'Merovingiany', and the clearly legible characters of a given name(?)):
Continental(?) pseudo coin fibula. 600-700 AD unknown maker, unknown workshop, rare, pewter (?)| weight 10,53gr. | Ø 34mm.
This shaky video shows the details and deep dark grey patina:
When mirrored, the text appears to read "GVDELOVE" though I'm open for alternative interpretations (GVDETOVE?)
I intend to conduct a specific gravity test to test whether it's silver (SG around 10.3) or pewter (SG around 7.7).
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Great coin, immediately recognised it as ex-Tony.
I’ve recently bought a Maastricht/interlace/zedelius type from Elsen while being on vocation in Maastricht. Need to photograph the coin, as the photos by Elsen are rather poor.
I just realised this coin completed my subcollection of continental Sceattas:
Series D (types 2c, 8, 10)Series E (nearly all sub-varieties)
Series F
Series X
Herstal type
Maastricht type
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I also have two left-facing busts, in different phases of abstraction:
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14 hours ago, Severus Alexander said:
Wow, @Roerbakmix, what a fabulous coin!!! I like it better with the deposits left on, they don't bother me at all either.
Thanks for the thoughts on my cheapie example. (I see it's a lot scarcer with the beast facing left, so at least it's a rare cheapie. 🙃) The glimmer of silver gave me some hope of cleaning possibilities compared to my caked-over K/N mule, but you would know a lot better than I do. Yeah, 50 quid + juice is pretty good for 2 sceats, even ones like those two were. I think it's neat they were found on the Isle of Wight; plus I didn't have any continental sceats. Box checked at a bargain price, I always like that.
Your series X isFeveile. Series X and coin circulation in Ribe.pdf indeed the scarcer variety with the fantastic beast to the left. Note that there is a very comprehensive study on the series X (attached volume I which covers the theory, and volume II with the plates and die-study). Also attached an article by Feveile on series X.
Feveile. Series X and coin circulation in Ribe.pdf Barrett. An analysis of the series X or Wodan monster sceattas. Some implications for trade and exchange in the 8th century AD (volume II).pdf
Also, @Severus Alexander, could you share your K/N mule again? I think I remember it, and believe that coin can be cleaned with some success.
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This is really cool. I remember your post on CT about a year ago (?). It's rather difficult to obtain Metcalf's three-volume standard reference for sceatta's and thrymsa's, but I finally managed to buy it from a dealer in the USA.
On a side note, a friend of mine (@AnYangMan) successfully bid on four sceatta's, which only last week came into my possession:
An Interlace or Maastricht type. I'm not sure why this is categorized as a sceatta, as in my opinion it's closer to a Merovingian denier (though that distinction, imho, is rather arbitrary and vague). In hand, the deposits are less pronounced, which explains why I was able to buy this for just 240€ including auction costs.
Series E, primary phase, variety D (at least, that my best guess). This one remained unsold, so I was able to buy it for just 71€ including auction costs. I removed the deposits with sodium thiosulphate, which really improved the coin (will post pictures later).
Series E, primary phase, variety G2. I bid on this coin because it was a both obverse and reverse diematch to the coin in the next lot - which I didn't win! (I noticed it's for sale now on MA-shops for about 200% what the buyer bought it for). Again, in hand, its a much nicer coin than on the pictures, though it's somewhat rough. I'll probably sell it, as I own two variety G2's already.
Series D, primary phase, BMC 8 (obverse/reverse 'mule'). I had two BMC 8 types already, but this one I found interesting because of the very off-centered reverse, showing part of the die that would otherwise have been off-flan. I was able to find a reverse die-match in the standard reference by Metcalf and Opdenvelde (published in JMP 2003).
Will post my own photos later.
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On 6/16/2022 at 5:13 PM, John Conduitt said:
've been after a Series J Type 37 since I started collecting Saxon coins. I still don't have one. There seem to be quite a few about but they shoot up in price as soon as I'm interested. I'm probably being too fussy, because I've been looking for so long I notice all the anomalies you mentioned. I do, though, have one Series J...
Series J Type 36 Sceatta, 710-760
That's a great series J type 36; a type I still lack in my collection.
I do have this type 85 though, which has the most brilliant toning:
EARLY MEDIEVAL, Anonymous. Denomination: AR Sceatta (Series J, type 85), minted: Anglo-Saxon; 710-725, York
Obv: Diademed head right, double strand pearl diadem
Rev: A bird on a cross, pellets in field in front of bird and below horizontal bar on the cross; annulets at the ends of the horizontal arms, beaded inner circle
Weight: 0.98g; Ø:10.8mm. Catalogue: . Provenance: Ex Gallery 51 (May auction, lot 185, 30.05.2014), Ex iNumis (Auction 42, lot 191, 05.06.2018), Ex iNumis (shop, 27-04-2021); acq.: 04-2021
On 6/16/2022 at 8:53 PM, Hrefn said:At one time I had ambitions to collect a good run of Saxon sceattas but alas! One cannot collect everything. The first was struck in Kent, the first Anglo-Saxon coin struck in London by Wihtred, circa 690 AD. Series Bx. The second coin is another Series J, type 37. These were struck circa 710 AD. I purchased it in 2004 from Joe Linzalone of Wolfshead Galleries. The small diameter of these coins leads to magnified photos, which does the coins a disservice as they appear much rougher than they in fact are. These coins appear smooth, almost glossy, in real life. They are only about 8mm in diameter.
Excellent series J type 37, such a shame about the flan-crack. You're absolutely right: magnified photo's don't do the coins justice, though some can 'stand' the magnification. Nice Bx also. Slight nitpicking: most sceatta's are 11mm; some (e.g. the Hexagon type, or the series X) are a bit larger at 12-13 mm.
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Thanks, I figured it out:
Mentions & My Content > turned on
Reactions > turned off
Followed content:
>automatically follow new content I post > turned on
>automatically follow content I reply to > turned onThis should probably work.
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I would happily contribute as a reviewer / editor. In my academic area (medicine), students have to write a scientific thesis. The better theses (or students), after much editing, end up in a scientific journal. Perhaps a similar idea might work: good posts end up in the suggested online Numisforum journal; and the better articles could be transferred to Koinon (or a different numismatic journal) after pre-inquiry with the relevant editors of such a journal.
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Yes, I noted. But I would like to receive notifications when someone reacts to a thread I started, or commented on. I realize I didn't really wrote that clearly.
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Some of my comments receive likes, which is of course encouraging etc. However, I would like to suppress notifications for likes, and only receive notifications for 'true' reactions / mentions / quotes, etc.
An example of a 'like'.
I can't find this option in the notification center: is this possible?
Tagging @Restitutorwho probably knows the answer.
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5 hours ago, John Conduitt said:
I've been looking for one of these in as good condition as this for a very long time. Plenty of Series X coins come up but they're either not in great condition or the prices run away. I'm hoping prices have softened a little so one might come my way!
Thanks. This one was from MPO. If I remember correctly I bought it for 600 including %, which is a fair price. The minor earth deposits don’t bother me, and are probably easy to remove.
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5 hours ago, Severus Alexander said:
new sceat, Series X "Wodan Head". A bit grotty but purchased cheap in a group lot and provenanced to the ground on the Isle of Wight (a PAS coin) :
Maybe @Roerbakmix can help me with cleaning this one. Maybe. But I see enough silver to suppose it may show promise.
That’s a neat coin, and scored for a very nice price. I totally forgot about the Timeline auction.
I doubt it will clean well; difficult to see on those pictures.
here’s my new series x:
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I’m unfamiliar with the coin, but assuming it’s good silver, the horn silver deposits would easily dissolve in sodium thiosulphate. Could you ask your friend how he cleaned it?
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Life has been incredible busy last few months, and I haven't been able to post much. About a month ago, I bought my first early-medieval Frisian gold (posted at Cointalk, link). This turned out to be very addicting. There are not that many Frisian tremissis (a couple were posted by @Tejas in the CT-thread), but interestingly, a Nietap-type (named after the hoard found in a small village Nietap, Netherlands, in the early 1900's) was for sale at Elsen. It didn't sell at two earlier auctions, and was now listed with an estimate of 800-1000E. Researching that coin, I looked up the recent Tony Abramson sale, where a similar type sold for about 800 GBP. Another one didn't sell.
Long story short, I emailed Tony, we agreed upon a price, and my second gold Frisian coin was sent by Spink (free of charge, somehow):
EARLY MEDIEVAL, Anonymous. Denomination: AV Tremissis (Nietap type 1), minted: Frisia?; 620-630 AD
Obv: Die rust / worn die common for type, but remainder of bust to right with legend is visible
Rev: double cross in beaded circle, vestigial legends
Weight: 1.19g; Ø:11mm. Catalogue: SCBI 69, 1090 this coin; cf: T&S 73 = Sutherland 90 = Crondall 95; Metcalf [2016], 22. Provenance: Ex. Tony Abramson, bought from spink auction 21070 lot 998. ; acq.: 05-2022
It's a bit of an acquired taste, but I really like this coin 🙂
Next is this series J type 37, which I bought from Ebay. It's really difficult to photograph, as it looks much coarser than it's in hand. Somehow, this type (Series J, type 37) is often poorly minted: off-centered, uneven strikes, poor debased metal, etc. Plated specimens are also encountered frequently, which is uncommon for sceatta's. So the poor Ebay pictures were a bit of a gamble:
EARLY MEDIEVAL, Anonymous. Denomination: AR Sceatta (Series J, type 37), minted: Mint in Northumbria; 710-725 AD
Obv: Two confronted diademed heads; between, long cross with trident end; double border
Rev: Cross, at each end a bird right; double border.
Weight: 0g; Ø:12mm. Catalogue: . Provenance: Bought on ebay from adl-numismatics, NR 154920101191, found in Norfolk, England, 2018; acq.: 03-2022
Darkly toned, irregular flanFinally, bought mainly because it was really cheap, my third (!) series E, subtype h sceatta. The secondary phase (c. 720-740 AD) is characterized by an 'explosion' of different sceatta types. Metcalf and Opdenvelde (JMP 2009-2010) grouped these coins into subtypes a-h. Subtype h is the largest, most heterogeneous group of the Series E, with many diverse and interesting designs.
EARLY MEDIEVAL, Anonymous. Denomination: AR Sceatta (Series E, secondary phase, sub-variety h), minted: Frisia; 720-740 AD
Obv: Porcupine figure, with strong curve; one dot in the spine. Three dotted lines beneath, with dots between. No beak, but part of square (?) near distal part.
Rev: Similar reverse type of series E, sub-variety e, reverse var 2: small square within dotted square, within four dots and circle. Zig-zag line outside outer box.
Weight: 0g; Ø:mm. Catalogue: No die-match in JMP 2010. Provenance: Bought from Ebay, ID 284848560657; acq.: 06-2022
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3 hours ago, Severus Alexander said:
There are lots of stories of people being shocked to find silver under the crud in an uncleaned “AE” lots. Just sayin’. (A pin on the edge + high magnification might resolve that without doing much damage, if you’re game!
To illustrate, I bought (and cleaned and then sold) this coin last week, listed as ‘Roman coin’:
it is of course a half siliqua of Maurice Tiberius
after briefly (10 sec) of soaking in sodium thiosulphate (which dissolves the silver chlorides), it turned out quite nice:
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Very interesting coins, @Nap. I once owned a Cnut Rex daenorvm penny, but sold it when I was still in my ‘Roman phase’. I’ll probably regret it later (I have some remorse already). Will post pictures later.
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Durotriges Staters
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Durotrigian (?) staters are easy to come by in good condition and relatively cheap. I owned a few, and sold most of them. Here is the one I kept:
It's difficult to photograph, and better ('sharper') in hand.
Same for this iconic type, which comes from the Mossop collection: