Benefactor robinjojo Posted April 9 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted April 9 (edited) This is a typically crude and crusty coin, which I think was produced during the reign of Diocletian, RY 2. I'm having problems with the obverse legend, which in parts look like blobs of metal. It appears to begin with AK. The succeeding letters are hard for me to discern. The ending letters appear to be OCCEB. LB (year two), with an eagle, with a wreath in its beak, facing right and a palm left are on the reverse. The weight is 7.02 grams. The portrait style seems somewhat different from what I encounter for Diocletian, but these portrait styles seen to run into each other during this period of the The Tetrarchy. I really appreciate any input/opinions regarding this humble and no doubt common coin. Thanks Edited April 10 by robinjojo 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAZ Numismatics Posted April 9 · Member Share Posted April 9 ...ANOC CEB seems clear to me, so Diocletian is probably a good guess. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted April 9 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted April 9 Thanks! Here's another Diocletian Alexandrian tetradrachm with a different portrait style, one that I have seen very frequently. The obverse legend is much clearer. Diocletian, potin tetradrachm, 284-305 AD, RY 1, Alexandria. Tyche reverse. 5.38 grams 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Julius Posted April 10 · Member Share Posted April 10 Yep, this one doesn’t have the usual preamble to the name. The obverse legend is ΔΙΟΚΛΗΤΙΑΝΟC CEB. Here’s mine like the second one you posted. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Posted April 10 · Member Share Posted April 10 Concerning the tetradrachm from the first post: It is not RY2 of Diocletian but RY12 (295/6), which is the last year tetradrachms were minted in Alexandria. The I is not really visible, but must be there. Legend on obverse reads ΔΙΟΚΛΗΤΙΑΝΟϹ ϹΕΒ, a legend not used in the early years of Diocletian. Even though style of portraits in this time vary considerably, the bust used and its overall "broad" (sorry, no native speaker here; I can not find any better word to describe) appearance are indications for a late issue. Parallels to the style of the portraits of folles can hardly been denied. https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/76381 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted April 10 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted April 10 Well the group figured that one out pretty quickly! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted April 10 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted April 10 (edited) 8 hours ago, Severus said: Concerning the tetradrachm from the first post: It is not RY2 of Diocletian but RY12 (295/6), which is the last year tetradrachms were minted in Alexandria. The I is not really visible, but must be there. Legend on obverse reads ΔΙΟΚΛΗΤΙΑΝΟϹ ϹΕΒ, a legend not used in the early years of Diocletian. Even though style of portraits in this time vary considerably, the bust used and its overall "broad" (sorry, no native speaker here; I can not find any better word to describe) appearance are indications for a late issue. Parallels to the style of the portraits of folles can hardly been denied. https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/76381 Thank you so much for the clarification! I uploaded a better image of the coin, and traces of the "I" can be seen now. I was wondering why the reverse eagle design was not matching up with all the RY 2 tetradrachms of Diocletian. Edited April 10 by robinjojo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted April 10 · Supporter Share Posted April 10 Crude, yet interesting issues Here's a RY9 tetradrachm, with the year written in full Dioclétien (20/11/284 - 01/05/305) - Tétradrachme de l'atelier d'Alexandrie, officine A - AD 292-293 ΔΙΟΚΛHΤΙΑΝΟC CΕΒ, Buste lauré et drapé à droite, vu par l'avant L - ENATOY, Nike volant à droite tenant une couronne (9° année de règne), A à l'exergue 7.91 gr Ref : Emmett # 4064/9 (R3), Kampmann #119/89 Q 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Julius Posted April 12 · Member Share Posted April 12 On 4/10/2024 at 3:47 PM, Qcumbor said: Crude, yet interesting issues Here's a RY9 tetradrachm, with the year written in full Dioclétien (20/11/284 - 01/05/305) - Tétradrachme de l'atelier d'Alexandrie, officine A - AD 292-293 ΔΙΟΚΛHΤΙΑΝΟC CΕΒ, Buste lauré et drapé à droite, vu par l'avant L - ENATOY, Nike volant à droite tenant une couronne (9° année de règne), A à l'exergue 7.91 gr Ref : Emmett # 4064/9 (R3), Kampmann #119/89 Q That’s a nice coin! I have one with the year written the same way. Diocletian Potin Tetadrachm of Alexandria. Year 9 = 292-293 AD. Obv: DIOKLETI-ANOC CEB, laureate & cuirassed bust right Rev: ENATOV, L to right, Elpis standing left, holding flower and raising hem of robe. A in ex. Milne 5063. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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