A comparison of a double die matched Lysimachos Magnesia on the Maeander Tetradrachm

[filolif]

I am comparing a Lysimachos tetradrachm from the upcoming CNG 547 sale here: https://auctions.cngcoins.com/lots/view/4-B4W4D2/kings-of-thrace-macedonian-lysimachos-305-281-bc-ar-tetradrachm-29mm-1706-g-11h-magnesia-on-the-maeander-mint-struck-circa-2976-2821-bc-good-vf

To one sold by Savoca in their 161 Silver Auction here: https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=6695&lot=72

The two coins appear to be double die matches with very similar strikes. Here is a gif comparing them:

Is there anything that raises red flags about one or both of these coins? Its possible they're both from the same hoard. Or is there evidence of a die transfer? Just curious what others think.

[CPK]

Nice coins.

[filolif]

For the record, neither of these coins is mine nor do I plan to bid. The Savoca one is owned by a friend. I was just struck by the similarity. The surfaces of the Savoca one have always looked strange to me. Could just be a harsh clean.

[Cordoba]

28 minutes ago, El Cazador said:

You clearly have no idea what you talking about

No need to be rude and spam post this thread, especially if you aren't going to contribute to it.

[The_Collector]

I am not super knowledgeable about Greek coinage but to my, spot the difference trained, eye 😂 they look to be die matches. I agree that the bottom one has an odd almost luster, but it could be that I just like the top one better haha. Both are beautiful coins though!

[Romismatist]

Addressing the elephant in the room, I don't think that either coin is fake, they both look to be genuine examples. It is curious that they are exact obverse and reverse but it's not unheard of for genuine examples. However, this is not my collecting area of expertise, so I will defer to others that are more experienced in this field.

[NewStyleKing]

The general idea of two coins having identical obverses and reverses is common. In the catalogue of the New Style Silver Coinage of Athens it will be seen to be quite common.More useful and of numismatic value are obverses of the same type mated with differing reverses and reverse types.eg, this can show  chronological progression and is a key factor in the NSSCA.

Edited September 15, 2023 by NewStyleKing