ambr0zie Posted June 25, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 25, 2022 Adding coins with a mythological background is one of my major goals. Managed to add one, a good present for my incoming birthday (along with another one I was chasing for a long time, the T. Carisius denarius with a reverse showing minting tools) L Titurius L f Sabinus - Sabine Denarius. 89 BC. Rome mint. Sabine Women Denarius. Obv: bare head of King Tatius right, bearded, SABIN behind, palm-branch before. Rev: two Roman soldiers running, each bearing a Sabine woman in his arms; L TITVRI in exergue. Craw. 344/1b; Syd. 698; RSC Tituria 2; Sear 249. From Wiki page about this incident According to Roman historian Livy, the abduction of Sabine women occurred in the early history of Rome shortly after its founding in the mid-8th century BC and was perpetrated by Romulus and his predominantly male followers; it is said that after the foundation of the city, the population consisted solely of Latins and other Italic people, in particular male bandits. With Rome growing at such a steady rate in comparison to its neighbors, Romulus became concerned with maintaining the city's strength. His main concern was that with few women inhabitants there would be no chance of sustaining the city's population, without which Rome might not last longer than a generation. On the advice of the Senate, the Romans then set out into the surrounding regions in search of wives to establish families with. The Romans negotiated unsuccessfully with all the peoples that they appealed to, including the Sabines, who populated the neighboring areas. The Sabines feared the emergence of a rival society and refused to allow their women to marry the Romans. Consequently, the Romans devised a plan to abduct the Sabine women during the festival of Neptune Equester. They planned and announced a festival of games to attract people from all the nearby towns. According to Livy, many people from Rome's neighboring towns – including Caeninenses, Crustumini, and Antemnates – attended the festival along with the Sabines, eager to see the newly established city for themselves. At the festival, Romulus gave a signal by "rising and folding his cloak and then throwing it round him again," at which the Romans grabbed the Sabine women and fought off the Sabine men. In total, thirty Sabine women were abducted by the Romans at the festival. All of the women abducted at the festival were said to have been virgins except for one married woman, Hersilia, who became Romulus' wife and would later be the one to intervene and stop the ensuing war between the Romans and the Sabines. The indignant abductees were soon implored by Romulus to accept the Roman men as their new husbands. The word "rape" (cognate with "rapto" in Portuguese and other Romance languages, meaning "kidnap") is the conventional translation of the Latin word raptio used in the ancient accounts of the incident. Modern scholars tend to interpret the word as "abduction" or "kidnapping" as opposed to a sexual assault. Just to clarify - I am not supporting any actions depicted on this coin. But adding a coin with a documented story in the background is something I always want. I am a little annoyed that there were 3 similar coins in the auction, but I chose (without paying proper attention) the one where the strike is that bad that Tatius looks bald. However, I like the details and the clear branch symbol. Since I was looking after a decent example without breaking the bank, I am happy! Please post coins depicting facts from mythology/history! 19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted June 25, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 25, 2022 (edited) A very interesting type. Here is the other type: L. Titurius L.F. Sabinus AR Denarius, 89 BC, Rome Obv.: SABIN A PV, Head of King Tatius right, palm below chin Rev.: Tarpeia facing between two soldiers, star and crescent Ag, 17mm, 4g Ref.: Crawford 344/2C, Sydenham 699a Clashed dies. See the mirrored BIN from SABIN behind the leg of the right soldier Ex E.E. Clain-Stefanelli Collection Edited June 25, 2022 by shanxi 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted June 25, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 25, 2022 Interesting coin. I like your collecting angle, it gives your coins more appeal than simply portraying some deity or other. A lot of ancient coins depict or glorify violence. Like many collectors, I have a few that feature captives and I don't condone slavery or war crimes (or war at all). I wouldn't collect them if they were being produced by a mint today - we've learned a few things in the last 2000 years - but it doesn't mean we shouldn't be interested in how society worked back then. There are not many aspects of Roman society I'd want to revive, but it's fascinating. I have very few coins depicting events, but I believe this is meant to commemorate Constans' sailing to Britain. There was no need for a battle, but he wanted to show he was a conquering emperor nonetheless. Constans 'Galley' Centenionalis, 348-350 Treveri. Bronze, 23mm, 5.26g. Pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right; D N CONSTA-NS P F AVG. Emperor standing left on galley, holding Victory on globe and standard with Chi-Rho in banner; Victory seated at stern, holding rudder; FEL TEMP - REPARATIO; TRP (RIC VIII, 219). From the Bridgnorth (Shropshire) Hoard 2007, comprising 2,892 coins up to 355, mostly Magnentius and Decentius. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted June 26, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) Founding Myths of Rome:RR L TITURIUS LF SABINUS AR Denarius Kidnap of Sabines 89 BCE Sear 249 Craw 344-1aRR Titurius Sabinus 89 BCE AR Den Tarpeia buried shields S 251 Craw 344-2a Edited June 26, 2022 by Alegandron 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryro Posted June 26, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 26, 2022 Coingrats my friend! A type any fan of Roman foundation mythology and or RRs should have. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted July 8, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2022 Here is my Sabinus of the second type for comparison. 18mm 4.01 gm. CRAWFORD 344/2C Ex Savoca Auction 39 2019. Your coin @ambr0zie was a significant coin that I wanted for several years and I have only recently acquired an example. Here it is. Opisthodomos, Auction 1 May 2022. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapphnwn Posted July 8, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted July 8, 2022 Denarius of L. Titurius L. F. Sabinus 89 BC Obv Bare head of King Tatius palm frond below Rv Twp Romans facing each other each carrying female under their arm. Crawford 344/1c RBW 1300 4.30 grms 18 mm Photo by W. Hansen I concur with @ambr0ziecomments seen above. Nice coin and an interesting look into Rome's distant past. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted July 9, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) I realized I might be slightly bothered by the bad strike and since another similar coin remained unsold in the auction, I requested the house to add it in my invoice. This was not a problem since this one remained unsold. Very small flan on this one (and the subtype cannot be determined) but why leaving it unsold? Edited July 9, 2022 by ambr0zie 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted July 9, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 9, 2022 Thought the young ladies were being taught swimming! Maybe I'm naive? Or something? Breast stroke...doggy paddle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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