ambr0zie Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 15, 2023 Finally, a package I paid for on the 18th of February has arrived. It's a different subject, but, I don't know about you, but I am not a big fan of houses that request expensive shipping, but in the end use a cheap and slow service. Something I will take into consideration. Especially since it wasn't an auction win with exceptional targets. But this coin is something I intended to buy for a while and I am glad I managed to obtain a decent specimen, with a decent price. And as I mentioned in the subject, I am trying to develop a Zoo series of my own, being one of the major themes in my collection. Claudius (41-54). Egypt, Alexandria. Æ Diobol (25.5mm, 11.22g, 12h), year 3 (AD 42/3). ΤΙ ΚΛΑV ΚΑΙ ϹƐΒΑϹ ΓƐΡΜΑ, laureate head r.; star before / ΑVΤΟΚΡΑ, hippopotamus standing r.; L Γ (date) in exergue. Köln 79; Dattari 166; Milne 90; Emmett 82; RPC I 5140 Not the most handsome specimen in the world, but I like the portrait, and of course, the hippopotamus. Not an animal I had in my collection and for my tastes, more attractive than Otacilia Severa imperials - I find them more common and quite pricy. If I ever specialize on something, provincial Alexandria coins are a major probability as I always felt they have something very original and a variety of reverses with strong themes. Plus a certain style that I haven't seen on any other provincials. Let's see: - animals on newly acquired coins - Alexandria coins - Claudius coins - anything you feel relevant 18 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edessa Posted March 15, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2023 Roman Egypt, Alexandria. Antoninus Pius, AD 138-161. AE Obol (18mm, 4.65g, 1h). Dated RY 10 (AD 146/147). Obv: ΑVΤ Κ Τ ΑΙΛ ΑΔΡ-ΑΝΤ[ⲰΝƐIΝ; Laureate head right. Rev: Panther walking right, head raised and chest out; LDEK (year) above. Ref: BMC -; Milne -; Emmett 1777 (R4). About Very Fine with a nice green patina. Quite rare and interesting. Ex Joel Malter, Aug 2001. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted March 15, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2023 Nice coin !! Here is a Claudius from Alexandria, without animal Claudius Alexandria, year 4, AD 43-44 Billon Tetradrachm Obv.: TI KΛAΥΔI KAIΣ ΣEBA ΓEΡMANI AΥ[TOKΡ], laureate head right, date LΔ before Rev.: MEΣΣAΛINA KAIΣ ΣEBAΣ, Messalina as Ceres standing facing, head left, two small figures in right, two stalks of grain in left Billlon, 22.9x24.1mm Ref.: Geißen 81, Dattari 125 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, shanxi said: ... without animal Sure? I can help you. I believe that it is a cat. I recognise a tail that points upwards. Do you recognise it too? 🤡😂 8 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted March 15, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, Prieure de Sion said: I believe that it is a cat. Oh, I completely overlooked the cat, but now I see it. Fact is fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 I realized something, in a serious matter. I don't have a coin with a cat, Big cats - lions, panthers, yep but that's a different story. It seems clear that what is today a very common animal is very ... exotic on coins. Did a quick check and apparently there are 2 types from Alexandria with cats https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6510 https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6511 I was expecting a more realistic depiction on the 2nd... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted March 15, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted March 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, ambr0zie said: I don't have a coin with a cat There is also Tarent: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=195790 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejewk Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, ambr0zie said: I realized something, in a serious matter. I don't have a coin with a cat, Big cats - lions, panthers, yep but that's a different story. It seems clear that what is today a very common animal is very ... exotic on coins. Did a quick check and apparently there are 2 types from Alexandria with cats https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6510 https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6511 I was expecting a more realistic depiction on the 2nd... A yes, the lesser known cat that stands in groups in fields and goes baaaaaaa. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 36 minutes ago, thejewk said: A yes, the lesser known cat that stands in groups in fields and goes baaaaaaa. Sorry, I don't understand your point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejewk Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 15, 2023 11 minutes ago, ambr0zie said: Sorry, I don't understand your point. I thought the cat on the second linked coin looked more like a sheep, was trying to make a bad joke haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Julius Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 15, 2023 Here kitty kitty! 🐅 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 I would have guessed too anything but a cat. But the description is quite clear, although the image isn't. A little surprising for an Egyptian mint - having just 2 coins with cats (all I found in RPC) - one impossible to distinguish and the other ... well... not drawn by the most talented guy in the block. Nobody else with animals/Alexandrian coins/Claudius? This coin was a consolation prize for a recent Claudius denarius I lost. It was in bad shape and with some damage, but ... Claudius denarius. In the end I decided to leave it, the price was very good for the type, but the coin was ugly .... decisions decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broucheion Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) Hi All, I posted my kitties previously on another list in a far off galaxy. First a true kitty (https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ojs-big-cat-sanctuary.357879/page-2#post-4314555). As @ambr0zie noted, Alexandria does have quite a few other big kitties: lions (see https://www.cointalk.com/threads/zodiac-drachm-helios-in-leo.302904/#post-7394762) and panthers (see https://www.cointalk.com/threads/oddly-harnessed-biga.327250/page-2#post-4890038). There are more especially if you count the lead/Pb ones (gee, I need to get at least one) or the Gnostic glass ones (below example of several I have). GRECO-ROMAN EGYPT STAMPED GLASS CHARM OR TOKEN ca 1st - 3rd Century CE Size: Not yet measured Weight: Not yet measured Axis: 6:00 Emmett-Unlisted Broucheion Collection Seal-2001-09-03.003 temp Obv: Hathor bust facing right wearing crown of disk with two plumes. Raised border.Rev: Lion or hound standing, facing right on exurgual lineProvenance: Ex-Colosseum Coin Exchange, Inc., Auction 117 (05 Sep 2001), Lot #499 - Broucheion Edited March 15, 2023 by Broucheion 6 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted March 15, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, ambr0zie said: I realized something, in a serious matter. I don't have a coin with a cat, Big cats - lions, panthers, yep but that's a different story. It seems clear that what is today a very common animal is very ... exotic on coins. Did a quick check and apparently there are 2 types from Alexandria with cats https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6510 https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6511 I was expecting a more realistic depiction on the 2nd... I would never have guessed that those were supposed to be cats! I think I'll remain content with my ancient Egyptian amulet and scarab of Bastet, along with some Japanese woodblock prints. Egypt, pale blue glazed faience amulet of Bastet, the cat goddess, seated on base, loop in back of neck, left ear missing, 26th Dynasty-Ptolemaic period , ca. 663-300 BCE. 34 mm. H. Purchased from Harmer Rooke, New York City, 2/26/1990. Steatite scarab with seated Bastet. Lower Egypt. New Kingdoms Period. 1550-1050BC. (13 mm) Scarab with central bidirectional piercing for suspension. The back is simply engraved, features are defined. On the face, n'b b'stet ma'At r' "May the truth of Lady Bastet endure" in hieroglyphics. Some flaking on the back. Purchased at Classical Numismatic Group LLC (CNG) E-Auction 528, 30 Nov. 2022, Lot 770. Koho Shoda (1871-1946), Black Cat at Night. Edited March 15, 2023 by DonnaML 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted March 15, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) I'll refrain from posting my Gallienus Zoo Series or Legionary Series or Antioch lion series animal coins here, because I recently posted all of them in the "Emperors" thread. But here are my two hippo coins. I like them both! Crocodile: Rhino: A couple of elephant coins actually minted on the African continent: A lion, proudly strutting: A few more lions: Egypt, glazed blue faience amulet of reclining lion on integral base, suspension loop on back (loop restored), 26th Dynasty, ca. 664-525 BCE. 1 7/8" (47.6 mm.) L. Purchased 3/1/1991, Royal Athena Galleries, NYC. Published: Royal Athena Galleries, "The Age of Cleopatra" exhibition catalog, Oct. 1988, p. 24 No. 119. And a Lion and Sun Disk scarab, probably from the time of the 26th Dynasty pharaoh Psemthek I (= Psammetichus I = Psamtik I, the more current spelling). Edited March 15, 2023 by DonnaML 5 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted March 15, 2023 I have many ferocious felines on coins, but the closest to a cat is this panther on the lion side of a Kyzikos hemiobol 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientOne Posted March 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 15, 2023 Fairly recent acquisitions. Ionia, Ephesos. Commodus AE18 Obv: M AΥ K-OMOΔOC. Laureate head of Commodos, right. Rev: EΦE[Σ]/IΩN. Boar, right. RPC IV.2, 1152 (temporary) Phrygia, Laodicea ad Lycum. Æ16. Pseudo-autonomous issue, time of the Severans, AD 193-235. Obv: ΔΗΜΟϹ, diademed head of the Demos to right. Rev: ΛΑΟΔΙΚЄΩΝ, river Lykos as wolf seated to right, with paw resting on inverted vase out of which flows water. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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