maridvnvm Posted January 2, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 2, 2023 One of my collecting areas of focus is the bronze coinage of Probus from Lugdunum . The coins from the 5th Emission, created to celebrate the successful return of Probus through the city after a campaign in Gaul, introduced the more elaborate bust types. Many of these bust types are commonplace from other mints but not so from Lugdunum. I obtain them whenever I the confluence of them appearing on the market and their price allows. I hope that 2023 allows me to add a couple more but I am very happy to add this one. Probus Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy Minted in Lugdunum (II) Emission 5 Officina 2. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference(s) – Cohen 339. Bastien 213 (7 examples cited). RIC 82 Bust Type G (rated Scarce) 3.32 gms, 24.60 mm. 180 degrees Martin 24 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted January 2, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, maridvnvm said: One of my collecting areas of focus is the bronze coinage of Probus from Lugdunum . The coins from the 5th Emission, created to celebrate the successful return of Probus through the city after a campaign in Gaul, introduced the more elaborate bust types. Many of these bust types are commonplace from other mints but not so from Lugdunum. I obtain them whenever I the confluence of them appearing on the market and their price allows. I hope that 2023 allows me to add a couple more but I am very happy to add this one. Probus Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy Minted in Lugdunum (II) Emission 5 Officina 2. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference(s) – Cohen 339. Bastien 213 (7 examples cited). RIC 82 Bust Type G (rated Scarce) 3.32 gms, 24.60 mm. 180 degrees Martin Nicely detailed obverse and reverse, great pick up 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humilau Posted January 3, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) Probus from Lugdunum you say? May I introduce you to my E1 (Bastien code) var. bust Attic Helmet then. I mainly go after Probus rarities from Siscia but given the opportunity for this rarity I had to get it. As you probably know the E1 (military busts) are already rare for Lugdunum, but an E1 Military Bust with an Attic style helmet rather than the standard Corinthian style is even more rare. This Probus is 5th Emission, 3rd Workshop with a MARS VICTOR reverse. An E1 Attic Helmet Probus is not listed by Bastien afaik for a Mars Victor / III reverse and I have not seen another example show up at auction or online so there is a chance that this coin is unique. Obv: IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG Rev: MARS VICTOR / III Mint: Lugdunum Emission: 5 Officina: 3 Ref: Bastien 239 (for regular E1 Corinthian Helmet type) 3.84 grams, 22 mm Edited January 3, 2023 by Humilau 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted January 3, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 A beautiful example. I have a Corinthian from Officina II The attic variants are not given a separate entry and are generally noted within the same entry in Bastien. I will look through to see if there is mention of your type. The Attic types seem to attract a premium. I am aware of a IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG / MARS VICTOR; / II on the market with an Attic style helmet I do have a couple of Attic types. Neither is in great shape but they do exist. Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate, Attic helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield, horseman on shield Rev:– ABVNDANTIA AVG, Abundantia standing right, emptying cornucopiae Minted in Lugdunum (IIII) Emission 5 Officina 4. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference:– RIC 59 Bust type G. Cohen 5. Bastien 248 This one is seen from the rear. Obv:– VIRTVS PROBI AVG, Radiate, Attic helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield, seen from back Rev:– TEMPOR FELICI, Felicitas standing right, holding caduceus and cornucopiae Minted in Lugdunum (//I) Emission 5 Officina 1. End A. D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference:– RIC 106. Cohen -, Bastien 210 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor LONGINUS Posted January 3, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted January 3, 2023 Great post and coin, @maridvnvm ! I’ve one Probus from Lugdunum without his helmet. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted January 3, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 @LONGINUSA nice example of the later version of this type. Here is mine from the same issue for comparison. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humilau Posted January 3, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 3, 2023 @maridvnvmvery nice attics, even in not so great of shape they are still very nice to have. Since I said I collect some Siscia stuff I might as well show some. I am particularly found of the KA series from Siscia so I try to get those whenever I can. First Coin: Obv: VIRTVS PROBI AVG Rev: ADVENTVS PROBI AVG / -/-/-/KA Mint: Siscia, 2nd emission, 3rd officina Bust: E1 Ref: Pink: Em. 2B2 3.80 grams, 22mm 5ish known of this type Second Coin: Obv: IMP C PROBVS P AVG Rev: CLEMENTIA TEMP / -/ᴗ/-/KA Mint: Siscia, 7th Emission, 4th Officina Bust: E1 var Parma Ref: Alfoldi 18/6 3.59 grams, 21 mm 4 known of this type 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted January 4, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 Nice. I have/have had a few of the KA Siscia coins. Some are very rough.... Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate bust left in imperial mantle, holding sceptre surmounted by eagle Rev:– CLEMENTIA TEMP, Emperor standing right, holding sceptre surmounted by eagle, receiving globe from Jupiter standing left, holding sceptre Minted in Siscia (S / KA) Emission 7 Officina 2. A.D. 280 Reference:– Alfoldi type 17, n° 16. RIC 643 Bust type H Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS P AVG, Radiate bust left in imperial mantle, holding sceptre surmounted by eagle Rev:– CLEMENTIA TEMP, Emperor standing right, holding sceptre surmounted by eagle, receiving globe from Jupiter standing left, holding sceptre Minted in Siscia (P / KA) Emission 7, Officina 1. A.D. 280 Reference:– Alfoldi type 17, n° 4. RIC 646 Bust Type H (Scarce) Obv:– IMP C PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right Rev:– CLEMENTIA TEMP, Emperor standing right, holding sceptre, receiving globe from Jupiter standing left, holding sceptre Minted in Siscia (Crescent / KA) Reference:– Alföldi. Type 18, nº 6. RIC Unlisted near 648. Unlisted with this obverse legend in RIC. Obv:– IMP C PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust left, with spear and shield Rev:– CLEMENTIA TEMP, Emperor standing right, holding sceptre, receiving globe from Jupiter standing left, holding sceptre Minted in Siscia (Crescent / KA) Reference:– Alfoldi unlisted. RIC Unlisted near 648. Unlisted with this obverse legend in RIC and Alfoldi 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted January 4, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 Great coins. I also have a military bust with MARS VICTOR reverse from Lugdunum 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humilau Posted January 4, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 @maridvnvmI think I recognize those coins of yours haha, Griffiths? The KA siscia coins are such an interesting issue to me. I get them whenever they show up at auction, unfortunately they almost never appear due to their scarcity. Sometimes I get lucky though. Its a fun series for me to collect even within the regular siscia issues I have. Although the rarer KA issues like FIDES MILITVM, SECVRITAS SAECVLI, and PM TR P COS PP may elude me for some time I still pick up KAs' whenever they hit the market to built up that small subset of my collection. Currently for my subset KA collection I have been able to find 8 individual coins with 6/8 being different 7th emission CLEMENTIA TEMP issues with the other two being the ADVENTVS PROBI AVG pictured above and a VICTORIAE AVG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted January 4, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 I have a strong liking for the 5th Issue from Lugdunum.... A few more... Obv:– VIRTVS PROBI AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield, horseman on shield Rev:– ABVNDANTIA AVG, Abundantia standing right, emptying cornucopiae Minted in Lugdunum (IIII) Emission 5 Officina 4. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference:– RIC 18 Bust type G. Bastien 252 3.21 g. 22.62 mm. 180 degrees Obv:– VIRTVS PRO-BI AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield, decorated with emperor riding past row of soldiers with shields Rev:– ADVENTVS PROBI AVG, Emperor riding left, right hand raised, left holding sceptre; at foot, captive Minted in Lugdunum (IIII) Emission 5 Officina 4. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 References:– Cohen 69. Bastien 256 (2 examples). RIC 64 Bust Type G (S) Appears to be an obverse die match to the plate example in Bastien Obv:– VIRTVS PROBI AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield Rev:– ADVENTVS PROBI AVG, Emperor, riding left, right hand raised, left holding sceptre; at foot, captive Mint – Lugdunum (//III) Emission 5, Officina 3. End A. D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference:– RIC 64 Bust Type G var (officina), Cohen 69, Bastien 226 (1 ex. same dies) 3.35 gms. 180 degrees. 22.19 mm. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humilau Posted January 4, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 Lovely Medusa on the 3rd officina Adventus and great strike and silvering on the 4th officina Adventus. For as uncommon the E1 bust is at Lugdunum, a lot of them are engraved so nicely. But sadly, those die engravers at Lugdunum do really love their B type busts of Probus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted January 4, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 more 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted January 4, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 4, 2023 And finally some different busts / variations 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted January 4, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 4, 2023 (edited) This is a fantastic collection! They produced the best bust variations for Probus of the entire Roman series. Here are some of mine: Edited January 4, 2023 by Tejas 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay GT4 Posted January 5, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 5, 2023 (edited) Nice coins! This post reminded me I used to own a few coins of Probus. This one is long gone but here it is... IMP C PROBVS P F AVG Radiate, cuirassed bust right MARS VICTOR Mars walking right, spear in right hand pointing forward, trophy over left shoulder; II in ex. Officina 2 Lugdunum, 276 AD. 4.29g Edited January 5, 2023 by Jay GT4 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted March 17, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted March 17, 2023 I have just added another bust type to my collection. Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear (no shield) Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy Minted in Lugdunum (II) Emission 5 Officina 2. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference(s) – Cohen 339. Bastien 215 pl.. XXVI (1). RIC 83 var. B. supp1/- - B. supp 2/- - ROME 2/- 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jims,Coins Posted March 18, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 18, 2023 - Bronze coin (AE Antoninianus) minted at Siscia during the reign of PROBUS between 276 - 282 A.D. Obv. IMP.C.M.AVR.PROBVS.AVG.: Radiate, draped & cuir. bust r. Rev. VIRTVS.PROBI.AVG.: Virtus/Mars walking r, carrying spear and trophy, in ex. XXIV. RICV #810 pg.105. DVM #59 pg.262. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Posted March 18, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted March 18, 2023 This is my contribution. 277 AD. Lugdunum mint. Obv: IMP C PROBVS P F AVG legend with radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev: MARS VICTOR legend with Mars advancing right carrying trophy and spear; II in exergue. RIC 84; Sear 11992.3.47 grams. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted February 24 · Member Author Share Posted February 24 Almost a year on. I have managed to add another couple of coins relevant to this thread. Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate, helmeted (Attic Helmet), draped and cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy Minted in Lugdunum (II in exe) Emission 5, Officina 2. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference:– Cohen 339. Bastien 216 (6). RIC 83 Bust type G (Scarce) 3.55 gms, 23.44 mm. 0 degrees Obv:– IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, Radiate bust left wearing imperial mantle, holding Victory on globe in right hand Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy Minted in Lugdunum (II in exe) Emission 5, Officina 2. End A.D. 277 to Early A.D. 278 Reference:– Cohen -. Bastien 219 (5). RIC 83 (Scarce) 3.56 gms, 22.65 mm. 180 degrees 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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