Tejas Posted November 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) I found the coin below on Ebay. It is an Antoninian of Herennius Etruscus, with the rare VICTORIA GERMANICA reverse. Obv.: IMP C Q HER ETR MES DECIO AVG Rev.: VICTORIA GERMANICA In May 251 Herennius Etruscus was elevated to the rank of Augustus by his father Trajan Decius. In the summer of 251 (June to August) Trajan Decius and his son were killed in the battle of Abrittus against the Goths. Hence, the coin can be dated to a few months between May and August 251. The time between May 251, i.e. the elevation to Augustus and the start of the fateful campaign against the Goths in June 251 leaves very little time for a significant victory over the Germanic people. I think there are two possible explanations: The celebratory issue refers to the victory at Nicopolis ad Istrum in 250, against the Goths. Although the Goths were linguistically and culturally Germans, i.e. Germanic people, the Romans distinguished on the basis of geography between Goths at the lower Danube and Germans (Franci and Alamanni) at the upper Danube and Rhine. The reference on this coin may be an example of a departure from that practice, maybe the name Goths was not yet well established in the Roman public perception to be used on a coin. The first appearance of the name Goths on Roman coins came only some 20 years later unter Claudius II. The celebratory issue refers to an earlier victory over Germanic tribes at upper Danube or Rhine. The victory may have been quite insignificant to go unnoticed in the written sources, but may have been envoked at the start of the Gothic campaign to boost confidence. However, it would have been much easier and relevant to refer to the significant victory over the Goths at Nicopolis in the previous year for this purpose. So I think, option one is preferable. If correct, this is quite significant for historiography. In any case, the issue was likely shortlived and small, as these coins are quite rare today. The coin below is not just distinguished by its rare reverse, it is also one of the best preserved examples of that type. Show us coins related to the events of AD 250/251, which arguably marked a turning point in the history of the Roman empire. Edited November 29, 2022 by Tejas 18 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted November 29, 2022 · Patron Share Posted November 29, 2022 ...yup...i always felt like he & his coins(Herr. Etruc.) hold a special place in Roman history and should fetch a premium as such.. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted November 29, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 29, 2022 (edited) An Etruscus example, prince of the youth: Edited November 29, 2022 by Ancient Coin Hunter 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted November 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Tejas said: I found the coin below on Ebay. It is an Antoninian of Herennius Etruscus, with the rare VICTORIA GERMANICA reverse. Obv.: IMP C Q HER ETR MES DECIO AVG Rev.: VICTORIA GERMANICA In May 251 Herennius Etruscus was elevated to the rank of Augustus by his father Trajan Decius. In the summer of 251 (June to August) Trajan Decius and his son were killed in the battle of Abrittus against the Goths. Hence, the coin can be dated to a few months between May and August 251. The time between May 251, i.e. the elevation to Augustus and the start of the fateful campaign against the Goths in June 251 leaves very little time for a significant victory over the Germanic people. I think there are two possible explanations: The celebratory issue refers to the victory at Nicopolis ad Istrum in 250, against the Goths. Although the Goths were linguistically and culturally Germans, i.e. Germanic people, the Romans distinguished on the basis of geography between Goths at the lower Danube and Germans (Franci and Alamanni) at the upper Danube and Rhine. The reference on this coin may be an example of a departure from that practice, maybe the name Goths was not yet well established in the Roman public perception to be used on a coin. The first appearance of the name Goths on Roman coins came only some 20 years later unter Claudius II. The celebratory issue refers to an earlier victory over Germanic tribes at upper Danube or Rhine. The victory may have been quite insignificant to go unnoticed in the written sources, but may have been envoked at the start of the Gothic campaign to boost confidence. However, it would have been much easier and relevant to refer to the significant victory over the Goths at Nicopolis in the previous year for this purpose. So I think, option one is preferable. If correct, this is quite significant for historiography. In any case, the issue was likely shortlived and small, as these coins are quite rare today. The coin below is not just distinguished by its rare reverse, it is also one of the best preserved examples of that type. Show us coins related to the events of AD 250/251, which arguably marked a turning point in the history of the Roman empire. Dirk, Nice score 😊! In AD 250 Decius placed his teenage son Herennius Etruscus in charge of the army fighting the Goths, while Decius confronted Philip I. Decius later joined his son on the Danubian front. The troops under the command of Trebonianus Gallus were also fighting the Goths with little success. Decius & Etruscus were finally ambushed by the Goths in the summer of AD 251. Pictured below is my only example of Etruscus on a tetradrachm struck at Antioch. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted November 30, 2022 · Patron Share Posted November 30, 2022 ...now i have a sestertius of ole Max Thrax with winged Victoria Germania reverse 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted November 30, 2022 · Patron Share Posted November 30, 2022 My only coin of the boy: Herennius Etruscus as Caesar, AD 249-251. Roman AR antoninianus, 3.83 g, 22.4 mm, 11 h. Rome, 5th emission, early AD 151. Obv: Q HER ETR MES DECIVS NOB C, radiate and draped bust, right. Rev: PRINCIPI IVVENTVTIS, Apollo seated left, holding branch and resting left elbow on lyre. Refs: RIC 146; RSC 24a; Cohen --; RCV 9522; Hunter 9; ERIC II 40. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted November 30, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Here is another recent acquisition of mine. My one and only Antoninian of Hostilian, the brother of Herennius Etruscus. Obv.: C VALENS HOSTIL MES QVINTVS N C Rev. MARTI PROPVGNATORI Hostilian was too young to participate in the campaign against the Goths, which cost his father Trajan Decius and his brother Herennius Etruscus their lives. The Senate recognized him has successor and elevated him to the rank of Augustus, which Trebonianus Gallus, the actual successor of Trajan Decius seem to have accepted, probably to avoid civil war. However, Hostilian died in November 251, reportedly of the plague, but Zosimus suggests that he was assassinated. The coin is slightly off center, but I like the charming portrait of Hostilian, who may have been 15 or 16 years old at the time. Edited November 30, 2022 by Tejas 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc9 Posted November 30, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 30, 2022 Here my best one from both of them, Herennius Etruscus : Q HER ETR MES DECIVS NOB C bust rad.,dra. r. PRINCIPI IVVENTVTIS Herennivs stg. l. holding wand and transverse spear Antoninianus, 4.19 gr, 20.21 mm, Rome A.D.250 – 251, RIC IVc 147 p. 139 Hostillianus : C VALENS HOSTIL MES QVINTUS N C bust rad., dra r. MARTI PROPVGNATORI Mars advancing r. holding spear and shield Antoninianus, 3.46 gr, 20.97 mm, Rome A.D.251, RIC IVc 177 p. 144 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted November 30, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 Another from Antioch Herennius Etruscus Syria, Antioch Billon tetradrachm Obv.: ЄPENNЄ TPOY MЄ KY Δ ЄKIOC KЄCAP, draped and cuirassed bust right, Rev.: ΔHMAPX ЄΞOYCIAC, eagle standing on palm-branch, wings spread, head left, wreath in beak, S C below Ref.: Prieur 634 Billon, 12.19g, 25.9mm 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted November 30, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 Excellent acquisition @Tejas, you apparently have an eye for rarities Here are antoniniani of the two boys Herennius Etruscus, Antoninianus - Rome, AD 250-251 Q HER ETR MES DECIVS NOB C, Radiate bust of Herennius right PIETAS AVGVSTORVM, Sacrificial implements 4.45 gr Ref : RIC # 143, Cohen #14, RCV # 9521 Hostilian, Antoninianus - Rome mint, AD 251. Issued as Caesar with Trajan Decius C VALENS HOSTIL MES QUINTVS N C, radiate and draped bust right MARTI PROPUGNATORI, Mars advancing right, holding spear and shield 2.74 gr Ref : RCV # 9556, Cohen # 15, RIC # 177b Q 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Germanicus Posted December 1, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 1, 2022 Rare Sestertius of Hostilian as Augustus: IMP CAE C VAL HOS MES QVINTVS AVG - Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Hostilian right SECVRITAS AVGG S C - Securitas standing facing, looking right, her legs crossed, placing right hand on head and resting left arm on column. 14,69 gr / 28,37 mm Sestertius, Rome June-August 251 RIC (Decius) 225; Hunter p. 254, 3 and plate 81; Cohen 60; Sear 9593 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Germanicus Posted December 1, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 1, 2022 Sestertius of Herennius Etruscus: Q HER ETR MES DECIVS NOB C - Draped bust of Herennius Etruscus right PIETAS AVGG S C - Mercury standing left, holding purse in right hand, caduceus in left Sestertius, Rome (1st officina), 3rd emission of Trajan Decius, spring 250-mid 251 AD 28mm / 15.72 g, RIC IV 167a corr. (draped) (R 2); Cohen 12, Banti 1 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted December 1, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted December 1, 2022 I have a number of Trajan Decius Antoniniani. They used to be really cheap in the 1990s. At least that is my impression. But this one is a more recent acquisition. Obv: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVGRev: ADVENTVS AVG RIC 11b. Measurements: 3.91 g., 22 mm. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted December 1, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 And now here are two tetradrachms of the two boys Herennius Etruscus, Cesar (249-251) - Tetradrachme de billon de l'atelier d'Antioche, 247 - 7° officine ЄPЄNN ЄTPOY MЄ KY ΔЄKIOC KЄCAP Buste drapé à droite vu par l'arriere. Z sous le busteΔHMAPX ЄΞOYCIAC Aigle à gauche, les ailes déployées, tenant une couronne dans son bec et une palme dans ses serres. A l'exergue SC 28 mm, 10.24 g, 7 h Ref : Prieur #640, McAlee #1153g, RPC vol IX # 1773 Hostilien, Cesar (250-251) - Tetradrachme de billon de l'atelier d'Antioche, 251 - 2° officine Γ OYAΛ OCTIΛIAN MЄ KYINTOC KЄCAP Buste drapé à droite vu par l'avant. Deux points sous le busteΔHMAPX ЄΞOYCIAC Aigle à droite, les ailes déployées, tenant une couronne dans son bec et une palme dans ses serres. A l'exergue SC 26 mm - 11,34 g - 6h Ref : Prieur #648, McAlee #1159b, RPC IX 1718#3 (cet exemplaire) Q 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted December 3, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted December 3, 2022 Here is another nice portrait of Trajan Decius. The reverse is common, but the qualitity of the portrait is quite stunning. Obv.: IMP C M Q TRAIANVS DECIVS AVGRev.: VBERITAS AVGRIC 28b. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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