Benefactor kirispupis Posted November 13, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 13, 2022 For some time I've been after a tet of Eumenes I. In fact, it was a Pri 1 on my list, but because they're common and can go high, I rarely bid. Typically, I placed them on my watch list and when they went beyond my budget, I removed them. This one, though, stayed relatively low. From the photos, it seemed of high enough quality to be a nice coin, but with enough flaws to drive away those that put these in the stratosphere. So, I bid and, to my amazement, I won it! The Attalid coins have an interesting history. It was started by Philetairos, who wielded substantial autonomy from the Seleukids. Philetairos minted tets of his own, initially with Seleukos I Nikator (rare and very pricy) and then with himself (still rare). Because he was a eunuch, he adopted Eumenes I to succeed him. Eumenes, upon taking power, fully rebelled against the Seleukids and established his own kingdom. He continued to mint coins with the image of Philetairos. After Eumenes I, Attalos I also minted similar coins. Eumenes II followed the tradition, but also minted a small number with his own portrait. My understanding is Eumenes II minted the last tets, though Attalos II and Attalos III minted bronzes. When I received my coin yesterday, I was absolutely stunned. I'll need to figure a better way to display this, but its relief is incredible. I feel like I'm on the Haunted House ride in Disney with the talking heads. I actually tried to animate the head, but it seems the technology is too geared on forward facing heads. This is easily one of my most stunning coins to hold in hand. What I find so interesting about this portrait, too, is that they made no attempt to hide how large Philetairos' head was. It's one of the few portraits where you suspect that he looked pretty much like that. Feel free to show your Attalid coins or other high reliefs! KINGS of PERGAMON. Eumenes I Struck circa 255/0-241 BCE AR Tetradrachm 29mm, 16.89 g, 1h In the name of Philetairos. Pergamon mint Laureate head of Philetairos right Athena enthroned left, elbow resting on shield to right, crowning dynastic name; transverse spear in background, grape bunch to outer left, A to inner left, bow to right. Westermark Group V (unlisted dies); SNG BN 1618 Ex CNG 2015 Ex Lampasas Collection Ex CNG 2022 24 1 1 2 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted November 13, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2022 What a great portrait. So realistic and expressive! Looks as if he will speak. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted November 13, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 13, 2022 Not just the portrait. Athena's arms and legs are impressive too, wouldn't like to wrestle against her. This is what I would call a perfect ancient coin. For some reason I am less attracted by perfect coins (this is also true for my modern coins). In my book, an ancient coin needs to show some wear (but not extensive), some minor pitting, even if I admire exceptional coins I want to see that it's thousands of years old. I have nothing against test cuts if they don't obstruct the design/legends. The only thing I don't like about this specimen is the uneven toning but this can be easily ignored. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Constantivs Posted November 14, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 WOW!!!! Thanks for posting! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted November 14, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted November 14, 2022 Absolutely beautiful. I'd love to see a side view of it so I can get a better sense of the high relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordoba Posted November 14, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 great portrait! i have one of attalos i i've posted a couple times before. one thing i'm a bit confused on is why the ear of my coin is flattened. looks like someone filed the ear down for some reason Kingdom of Pergamon, Attalos I AR Tetradrachm. Struck in the name of Philetairos. Pergamon, circa 241-197 BC. Laureate head of Philetairos to right / Athena seated to left, resting elbow on shield, holding transverse spear and crowning ΦIΛETAIPOY to left with wreath; palm branch to outer left, monogram to inner left, bow to right. Westermark Group VIA; BMC 40 (Eumenes II); SNG BnF 1621. 17.04g, 27mm, 11h. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted November 14, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Cordoba said: great portrait! i have one of attalos i i've posted a couple times before. one thing i'm a bit confused on is why the ear of my coin is flattened. looks like someone filed the ear down for some reason Kingdom of Pergamon, Attalos I AR Tetradrachm. Struck in the name of Philetairos. Pergamon, circa 241-197 BC. Laureate head of Philetairos to right / Athena seated to left, resting elbow on shield, holding transverse spear and crowning ΦIΛETAIPOY to left with wreath; palm branch to outer left, monogram to inner left, bow to right. Westermark Group VIA; BMC 40 (Eumenes II); SNG BnF 1621. 17.04g, 27mm, 11h. I have seen similar to that but can't remember where to reference it. The conclusion as far as I recall is that the highest part of the relief was lowered to enable the coin to fit in a capsule. Although why someone would willingly damage a coin for this reason is totally beyond my comprehension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted November 14, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 Would you like to tell us of the reasoning behind the attribution of one philaterei from another.What do the hoards and cross mint marks say? Its nice having a coin but does it speak? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted November 14, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) good catch ! i agree that the relief is really amazing on this type. Here is mine, Westermark group IVa V.LIII-R.1b Edited November 15, 2022 by Brennos 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted November 16, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 16, 2022 On 11/14/2022 at 12:35 PM, NewStyleKing said: Would you like to tell us of the reasoning behind the attribution of one philaterei from another.What do the hoards and cross mint marks say? Its nice having a coin but does it speak? As far as I know, there is no study in English. It is therefore difficult to study the details of this coinage if you don't read German and French. The overall arrangement in 7 groups is by Imhoof-Blumer in 1884. It is based on a stylistic study and on die links. Successive scholars have confirmed the robustness of this relative chronology (Von Fritze 1910, Westermark 1961, Le Rider 1989 and Marcellesi 2012) Westermark has analysed the hoards in order to establish an absolute chronology modified by Le Rider based on the Meydancıkkale hoard (1980). The standard attributions today are : Group I and II struck by Philetairos Group III to V struck by Eumenes I (263-241 BC) Group VIa struck by Attalos I Group VIb Attalos I and Eumenes II (220 - 190 BC) Group VII after 189 BC The obverse of group I represents the portrait of Seleucos I The others the portrait of Philetairos The Westermark study "Das Bildnis des Philetairos von Pergamon" is really worst a read. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted November 16, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 16, 2022 The Coinages of the Attalids and their Neighbours: A Quantified Overview François de Callataÿ On academia.edu 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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