TheTrachyEnjoyer Posted October 26, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 26, 2022 Being Ill at home with the flu, I finally had the type to go through part of my trachy backlog. Here is a very nice depiction of virgin Mary from Thessalonican type sear 2167 struck under Theodore Komnenodoukas (1227?). This example has been clipped drastically down. Compare it in the last two photos with an unclipped issue of this type I also managed to get another Manuel Komnenodoukas sear 2182 type Certainly not my best example…but I will take another Thessalonican empire issue when ever I can! Besides some normal latin imitations, two other types caught my eye Sear 2026? Unusual style Sear 2034? I think I see enough to confirm the ID 20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quant.geek Posted October 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 28, 2022 That is a very nice depiction of Mary! Very well struck! The other coins aren't too shabby either. I have a boat load of trachaea that I need to go through, but I just don't seem to have the time these days. There are three more lots of coins coming in the next few days that I am super excited to receive. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magnus Maximus Posted October 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) Very nice indeed! I don’t have any coins with Mary on them to my knowledge, however I do have a picture of her on a Byzantine style mosaic that I saw recently. Edited October 28, 2022 by Magnus Maximus 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted October 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 3:10 PM, TheTrachyEnjoyer said: Being Ill at home with the flu, I finally had the type to go through part of my trachy backlog. Here is a very nice depiction of virgin Mary from Thessalonican type sear 2167 struck under Theodore Komnenodoukas (1227?). This example has been clipped drastically down. Compare it in the last two photos with an unclipped issue of this type I also managed to get another Manuel Komnenodoukas sear 2182 type Certainly not my best example…but I will take another Thessalonican empire issue when ever I can! Besides some normal latin imitations, two other types caught my eye Sear 2026? Unusual style Sear 2034? I think I see enough to confirm the ID That's a great portrait for a late issue ☺️! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrachyEnjoyer Posted October 28, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 28, 2022 Thanks everyone 😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentinian Posted October 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 28, 2022 It is very hard to find a trachy with both sides clearly struck. Here is a coin of Isaac II, Sear 2003, that is not fully struck, but at least Mary's face is clear: 26-24 mm. 3.22 grams. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quant.geek Posted October 28, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) My coins arrived! So here is a quick snap of two coins in the lot. There are some really nifty coins in these two lots. More to come later... Kingdom of Thessalonica: John Comnenus-Ducas (1237-1242) BI Trachy, Thessalonica (CLBC 14.24.4; Lianta 420) Obv: Six-pointed star or brockage of the reverse Rev: Full length figure of Virgin nimbate, orans, wearing tunic and maphorion; two asterisks in field Dim: 15mm The one in the Ashmolean is probably NOT Sear 2218 as it is too small. I will try to dig out the larger one that I have to show the size difference between this coin and Sear 2218. Empire of Nicaea: John III Ducas-Vatazes (1222-1254) Æ Trachy, Thessalonica (Sear 2130; DOC IV, Type H.10; Lianta 257-58) Obv: MP - ΘV in field. Full-length figure of Virgin nimbate, orans. Star in field on either side. Rev: IШ ΔΠOΔK ⒶΔIMT in two columnar groups. Full-length figure of emperor on left, and of St. Demetrius, beardless and nimbate; between them labarum surmounting triangular decoration on long shaft. Emperor wears stemma, divitision and chlamys; right hand holds sword, point resting on ground. Saint wears divitision and chlamys; left hand on sword, point resting on ground. Edited October 29, 2022 by quant.geek 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quant.geek Posted October 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 29, 2022 Empire of Nicaea: John III Ducas-Vatazes (1222-1254) Æ Trachy, Thessalonica (Sear 2128; DOC IV, Type F 8; Lianta 453-54) Obv: MP - ΘV; Virgin nimbate, seated upon throne without back; holds beardless, nimbate head of Christ on breast. Lily above cushion of throne, to either side Rev: IШ/Δ/Π/T to left, Ο/Δ/M/Τ to right; Full-length figure of emperor on left, and of St. Demetrius, beardless and nimbate; between them patriarchal cross. Emperor's right hand half-raised before chest in supplication; wears stemma, divitision, jeweled loros of simplified type. Saint's left hand lifted before chest; wears short military tunic, breastplate and sagion Dim: 28 mm, 2.41 g 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimm Posted October 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 29, 2022 4 hours ago, quant.geek said: Empire of Nicaea: John III Ducas-Vatazes (1222-1254) Æ Trachy, Thessalonica (Sear 2128; DOC IV, Type F 8; Lianta 453-54) Obv: MP - ΘV; Virgin nimbate, seated upon throne without back; holds beardless, nimbate head of Christ on breast. Lily above cushion of throne, to either side Rev: IШ/Δ/Π/T to left, Ο/Δ/M/Τ to right; Full-length figure of emperor on left, and of St. Demetrius, beardless and nimbate; between them patriarchal cross. Emperor's right hand half-raised before chest in supplication; wears stemma, divitision, jeweled loros of simplified type. Saint's left hand lifted before chest; wears short military tunic, breastplate and sagion Dim: 28 mm, 2.41 g That‘s a very attractive example! Far better than the budget example I currently have filling the gap for the type. Here‘s quite a nice portrait of Mary on a coin I won recently: John III Vatatzes - Empire of Nicaea: Sear 2100 Obv: Brockage Rev: Half-length figures of emperor and Mary, holding standard between each other, emperor holding cruciform sceptre. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quant.geek Posted October 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 29, 2022 That particular type isn't even the best example I have. I ended up with several of them over the years. Here are two of the better looking ones: 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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