Prieure de Sion Posted October 5, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 5, 2022 Bucephalus Auction:https://www.biddr.com/auctions/bucephalusnumismatic/browse?a=2883&l=3239745 Last week we discovered this treasure at the Bucephalus auction. We were not able to identify the coin exactly shortly before the auction - but it was clear to us that it could be something special. Only what? Well - in any case, we would bid 600-800 euros upwards. Then the auction started... 500, 600, 700... bang bang bang... 1500, 1600, 1700... whaaaat? And... 1900 and 2000 euros! The end! What??? Ok - we were aware that something rare would come under the hammer here. But why 2000 euros? So rare? We did not (!) buy the coin at auction. Someone else got it. Since we didn't know 100% what it was - we didn't take the risk up to 2000 euros. But what is it now? A rare ruler? A very rare mint? It is a special obverse with left depiction and raised hand. Ok. But is it really Elagabal? Or a rare usurper? Or is it just the rare mint? Which one? We looked in the Prieur catalogue. The coin is not to be found in the Prieur. Does anyone know more? Anyone else have ideas why this piece, which is not exactly in good condition, came to 2000 euros? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali Posted October 5, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 5, 2022 Looks like Elagabalus, but i've never seen that type of Tet of him before. If it's a legit coin, I like it, good crust and all. Hopefully someone here can answer the questions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted October 5, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 Looks like a little bit: https://auctions.cngcoins.com/lots/view/4-7ENG3O/seleucis-and-pieria-emesa-uranius-antoninus-usurper-ad-253-254-bi-tetradrachm-25mm-948-g-12h-good-fine But a friend reads in a documentation, that Tetradrachm of Uranius Antoninus only known with radiated bust! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonW Posted October 5, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 5, 2022 I've never seen this bust type for Elagabal. There's definitely a market for rare Elagabal Tetras: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2663184https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5572026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted October 5, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2022 RPC lists all examples with a temple below the eagle for Edessa 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted October 5, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 5, 2022 19 minutes ago, shanxi said: RPC lists all examples with a temple below the eagle for Edessa Ok. Edessa would not necessarily be such a rare mint. I don't know what the situation is with Elagabal & Edessa as far as rarity is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friedberg Posted October 5, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 5, 2022 The bust type is Elagabal. Here is a very similar Portrait Elagabal from Edessa: https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7001474 Michel Prieur assigns the Tempel / Shrine on the reverse below the eagle to Edessa and Rhesaena. With friendly greetings from Germany 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted October 5, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Prieure de Sion said: Bucephalus Auction:https://www.biddr.com/auctions/bucephalusnumismatic/browse?a=2883&l=3239745 Last week we discovered this treasure at the Bucephalus auction. We were not able to identify the coin exactly shortly before the auction - but it was clear to us that it could be something special. Only what? Well - in any case, we would bid 600-800 euros upwards. Then the auction started... 500, 600, 700... bang bang bang... 1500, 1600, 1700... whaaaat? And... 1900 and 2000 euros! The end! What??? Ok - we were aware that something rare would come under the hammer here. But why 2000 euros? So rare? We did not (!) buy the coin at auction. Someone else got it. Since we didn't know 100% what it was - we didn't take the risk up to 2000 euros. But what is it now? A rare ruler? A very rare mint? It is a special obverse with left depiction and raised hand. Ok. But is it really Elagabal? Or a rare usurper? Or is it just the rare mint? Which one? We looked in the Prieur catalogue. The coin is not to be found in the Prieur. Does anyone know more? Anyone else have ideas why this piece, which is not exactly in good condition, came to 2000 euros? shanxi, is correct, Prieur pictures many examples with the same mintmark. All coins from the Edessa mint are rare. Pictured below for comparison is a tetradrachm from my collection struck at the Emesa mint. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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