Broucheion

Hi All,

VESPASIAN (1 Jun 69 - 23 Jan 79 CE)
ALEXANDRIA, EGYPT Year 06 (073/074 CE)

Obol
Size: 20x21 mm
Weight: 6.69 grams
Axis: 11:30
Broucheion Collection R-1997-01-21.001

Obv: Vespasian laureate head facing right. Legend: [AVTOK]KAIΣEB[AOYΣΠAΣIANOY].Dotted border.
Rev: Horus hawk standing facing right, wearing double crown. In left field: L[Ϛ]. Dotted border.
Refs: Emmett-222.06; Geissen-298; Dattari-417; RPC II-2443 Online; Milne-436; BnF-1065 to BnF-1066

Next: Another hawk or falcon (not eagle) on a coin.

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Hi @CPK,

Did you look at https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=siglos ?

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Hi @dougsmit,

I think you are seeing [A]ΦΡO so I would vote for Aphrodisias-Plarasa in Caria. The coin looks like BMC Caria, page 25, #3, (pl V, #3 at http://snible.org/coins/bmc/caring/V.jpg) but the image is very blurry.

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Hi All,

RHODES, ca 229 - 226 BCE and afterwards
Æ Hemiobobl
Size: 19 mm
Weight: 5.41 g
Dies Axis: 0
Broucheion Collection G-2014-10-08.001

Obv: Laureate head of Zeus facing right. Solid border.
Rev: Rose with bud to right. Left field: monogram (MI ???). Ρ - Ο to either side of rose stem. Border not visible.
Refs: SNG Copenhagen-759 var; Sear 5075 var: monogram.
Prov: ex Muenzen & Medaillen (MA-Shops)

Notes: Ashton links this and several related coinage issues to the period immediately after the great earthquake that struck Rhodes circa 229-226 BCE. The city and port were devastated, and the great bronze Colossus beside the harbor was demolished. Greek states all over the eastern Mediterranean shipped in relief supplies, with Ptolemy III of Egypt being particularly generous. The Zeus head may reflect an Egyptian connection - the Rhodians honoring their benefactors.

The group 3b monograms are all similar and could perhaps be variants of a single monogram. They are not dissimilar from the monogram found on some of the earlier Rhodian Alexander tetradrachms. It is tempting, though in the absence of other evidence dangerous, to suggest that this monogram has the same reference as the group 3b monograms.

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On 5/3/2023 at 5:06 PM, John Conduitt said:

Unfortunately, I don't think so. I asked them about it and it didn't sound hopeful.

Hi All 

Did you try looking for the pages at archive.org?

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Hi All,

Link: ex-BCD.

CLEOPATRA VII & MARCUS ANTONIUS (44-31/30 BCE)
ACHAIA, PATRAI, ca 35 BCE
Ar TRIOBOL/HEMIDRACHM

Size: 16x17 mm
Weight:1.64 g
Axis: 5:00
Broucheion Collection P-2023-01-24.001

Obv: Aphrodite (resembling Cleopatra) wearing stephanos, head facing right. No legend. Dotted border.
Rev: ΔA / MACIAC / ΠATPE (monogram) in three lines, all within wreath. Plain border.
References: BCD Peloponnesos 525–8; HGC 5, 57; McClean 6325-8, SNG Copenhagen 154; SNG Lockett 2348; BMC 10. 2-3; Sear Greece-2963.

Notes: Magistrate Damasias Son of Agesilaus, ca 35 BCE. See Valverde "Una representación de Cleopatra en la ciudad aquea de patras (HGC 5 57)", Acta Numismatica 43, Barcelona 2013. BCD Peloponnesos #525 (LHS Auction 96, 8-9 May 2006), but not part of the auction.

General: From CNG eAuction 526 (2 Nov 2022): "This coin is from a massive issue that was struck in an apparent hasty manner, a fact suggested by the relatively crude dies that were often overused. Many of the known examples are poorly struck, another indication of haste. The date of the issue, in the mid-30s BC, suggests that the issue was made in conjunction with Mark Antony's preparations for his incipient war with Octavian. The head of Aphrodite may also have the features of Cleopatra VII, as many issues in the region at this time used her likeness in an attempt to flatter the wealthy queen (in fact, another issue of Patrai, BCD Peloponnesos 531-531, were overt issues in the name of Cleopatra)."

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14 hours ago, JeandAcre said:

But @Broucheion's reference is sailing over my head.

Hi @JeandAcre,

I am sorry for confusing you. My bad. I was answering @Sulla80 in shorthand and he replied with the actual text. CPE = Coins of the Ptolemaic Empire by Catharine Lorber. Volume 1 covers Ptolemies I - Ptolemy IV. There is a separate book for the AE coins and another for the Precious metal coins (so volume I contains two books). One can order it as a print on demand book in either softcover or hardcover direct from the publisher, the American Numismatic Society (ANS) at https://numismatics.org/store/cpe1/ . Volume II covering Ptolemy V - Cleopatra VII was just announced for a July 2023 release. See https://www.brepols.net/products/IS-9780897224024-1 . The cover says ANS is the publisher, so I will be getting my copy from them to take advantage of the 30% member discount.

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Hi @John060167,

That’s it. CATALOG NO. 134 — BUY OR BID SALE Closing at 5 PM on March 29, 2005, Lot #23.

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Hi @Sulla80,

CPE-B154.

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13 hours ago, kirispupis said:

It would be nice if they reprinted volume 1 at the same time. 🙂 

Hi @kirispupis,

The first volume is still available in hardcover or softcover from the ANS. https://numismatics.org/store/cpe1/

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Hi All,

See the table of contents for Cathy Lorber's CPE II volumes anticipated for July 2023.
https://www.brepols.net/products/IS-9780897224024-1

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Hi All,

Some additional reading:

Dario Calomino's 2013 paper "Die-Sharing in Moesia Inferior under Gordian III" at https://www.academia.edu/5792309/

George Watson's 2015 paper "The system of coin production in Roman Asia Minor: new light on an old problem" at
https://www.academia.edu/36441774/
and from 2016 "Die Sharing in Asia Minor: another phantom link" at
https://www.e-periodica.ch/cntmng?pid=smb-001%3A2016%3A66%3A%3A181
and in 2021 "The Development and Spread of Die Sharing in the Roman Provincial Coinage of Asia Minor" at
https://www.ajaonline.org/article/4243. This last one is behind a paywall if you are not a subscriber or otherwise have access to AJA

Yoav Farhi's 2021 paper "Eleutheropolis and Gaza: A Newly Discovered Die Sharing in Roman Palestine"
https://www.uni-muenster.de/Ejournals/index.php/ozean/article/view/3670/3647 . First page only.

There are a few known instances of Ptolemaic coins from cities in the Levant that also shared dies.

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Hi @DonnaML,

Previous sales listings are not the same as listing in a catalog or research paper but good researchers do note them. That’s because they can be more difficult to track down to consult compared to “standard references”. As @DLTcoins stated “Better phrases are "unlisted in standard references", "missing from major collections", "apparently unpublished", etc.”

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Hi @Al Kowsky,

That’s exactly what I was getting at. I know nothing about regional Byzantines, but I thought that the engraver might have used his regional sound to spell out “Eoanes” versus “Ioanes”, which could hint at the area of manufacture or the craftsman’s origin.

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6 hours ago, Al Kowsky said:

Obverse: Saint John facing.

Hi @Al Kowsky,

Interesting misspelling. The engraver must have had an accent.

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On 3/25/2023 at 11:33 AM, Ryro said:

And of course ....

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[Sorry , I just saw that @Roman Collector already gave us this version].

19 hours ago, DonnaML said:

Oddly, there's never been a U.S. President named Henry.

What about William Henry Harrison?

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Hi @O-Towner,

Take a look at http://ptolemybronze.com/ptolemy_series.html under the section “ Ptolemy VI - IX - Kyrene”. It’s usual to consider the cruder issues as later in date.

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On 3/19/2023 at 6:49 PM, Cinco71 said:

with a swooping angel countermark (at least that's what it looks like to me). 

Hi @Cinco71,

Angel, or maybe a stylized Tanit symbol? See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_Tanit .

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Hi All,

I just received this unlisted monogram variety of Ceraunus' hemiobol coin.

MACEDONIA UNDER PTOLEMY CERAUNUS AND MELEAGER
MACEDONIA, PAROREIA (CASSANDREA ???) 281 - 279 BCE

Size: 20 mm
Weight: 6.66 g
Die Axis: 6:00
Broucheion Collection G-2023-03-08.001

OBV: Zeus Dodonaios head, diademmed and wreathed, facing right. No border.
REV: Eagle on thunderbolt facing right, head turned back to left, wings closed. In upper left field: HP monogram; in right field: ΠΑΡ Monogram. No border.
border.
Refs: Lorber CPE-Unlisted (comes after CPE-B152); Svoronos-Unlisted; BMC 5.15, #65var (HP monogram)

Notes from CPE: [This variety has] been attributed to Macedonia since the nineteenth century on the basis of provenance and overstrikes, while H Gaebler (1926, pp 188-189) proposed a more specific attribution to the district of Paroreia, whose initial letters make up the monogram ΠΑΡ that appears consistently on these coins. The subject was reexamined by S Psoma (2008, pp 217-224). From overstrikes and hoards she deduced a date of issue after the reign of Demetrius Poliorcetes (294-287) but before the accession of Antigonus Gonatas in 277. Although there were numerous kings in Macedonia during this unstable period, the Zeus/eagle and Zeus/thunderbolt types could point to a Ptolemy as the issuing authority. There is a large concentration of these coins from the area around Cassandrea that may be associated with the Macedonian garrison installed in the city by Ptolemy Ceraunus in 280. Examples of the ΠΑΡ bronzes have also been found at Maroneia, where Ptolemy established another garrison in 281 as he advanced from Lysimachia to Pella.

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Hi All,

I posted my kitties previously on another list in a far off galaxy.

First a true kitty (https://www.cointalk.com/threads/ojs-big-cat-sanctuary.357879/page-2#post-4314555).

As @ambr0zie noted, Alexandria does have quite a few other big kitties: lions (see  https://www.cointalk.com/threads/zodiac-drachm-helios-in-leo.302904/#post-7394762) and panthers (see https://www.cointalk.com/threads/oddly-harnessed-biga.327250/page-2#post-4890038).

There are more especially if you count the lead/Pb ones (gee, I need to get at least one) or the Gnostic glass ones (below example of several I have).

GRECO-ROMAN EGYPT
STAMPED GLASS CHARM OR TOKEN ca 1st - 3rd Century CE

Size: Not yet measured
Weight: Not yet measured
Axis: 6:00
Emmett-Unlisted
Broucheion Collection Seal-2001-09-03.003 temp

Obv: Hathor bust facing right wearing crown of disk with two plumes. Raised border.
Rev: Lion or hound standing, facing right on exurgual line
Provenance: Ex-Colosseum Coin Exchange, Inc., Auction 117 (05 Sep 2001), Lot #499

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Hi All,

(This was also loaded to the "Ptolemy I as Satrap Tetradrachms" thread).

PTOLEMY I SOTER (306/305-283 BCE)
UNCERTAIN MINT 03, EGYPTIAN, PROBABLY MEMPHIS ca 306 - ca 303 BCE

Ar STATER (TETRADRACHM)
Size: 30x31 mm
Weight: 15.64 g
Die Axis:01:00
Broucheion Collection P-2019-06-26.001

OBV: Alexander the Great, wearing horn of Zeus-Ammon, diademmed head facing right, clad in elephant scalp and scaly aegis tied by snakes. Dotted border.
REV: Athena Promachos striding right on tiptoe, brandishing spear and shield. She wears a helmet, a girdled chiton and a scarf falling in swallow-tail folds. Legend reading upwards: ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ. In left field: HΔΙ monogram; In right field: eagle on thunderbolt. Dotted border.
Refs: LORBER: CPE-0083; Sv-0153, pl v, 22-23 [14 listed]; COP-UNLISTED; S-7750var: different monogram; BMC 06.xxx, #045

Provenance: Ex Malter "The Coinage of Ancient Egypt," Auction II, 23-24 Feb 1978, Lot 16.

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Hi All,

PTOLEMY I SOTER (306/305-283 BCE)
UNCERTAIN MINT 03, EGYPTIAN, PROBABLY MEMPHIS ca 306 - ca 303 BCE

Ar STATER (TETRADRACHM)
Size: 30x31 mm
Weight: 15.64 g
Die Axis: 01:00
Broucheion Collection P-2019-06-26.001

OBV: Alexander the Great, wearing horn of Zeus-Ammon, diademmed head facing right, clad in elephant scalp and scaly aegis tied by snakes. Dotted border.
REV: Athena Promachos striding right on tiptoe, brandishing spear and shield. She wears a helmet, a girdled chiton and a scarf falling in swallow-tail folds. Legend reading upwards: ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ. In left field: HΔΙ monogram; In right field: eagle on thunderbolt. Dotted border.
Refs: LORBER: CPE-0083; Sv-0153, pl v, 22-23 [14 listed]; COP-UNLISTED; S-7750var: different monogram; BMC 06.xxx, #045

Provenance: Ex Malter "The Coinage of Ancient Egypt," Auction II, 23-24 Feb 1978, Lot 16.

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Hi @Herodotus,

That looks perfect. Thanks!
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Hi All,

I'm starting to catalog coins that were a parts of various group lots that 'came along' with coins I was really after. Can anyone identify this one? I think it's Italian or Sicilian. All help welcomed.

Thanks,
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