Prieure de Sion

Very useful Thread (for me). Thanks to all for this very interesting informations! 

Boudicca 😳 … that’s cool. Congratulations!

7 minutes ago, Spaniard said:

Next....3rd century Empress. 

Plautilla as Augusta.

I like this coin. It already has something of a comic in its depiction. And Caracalla, who looks like a skeleton.

I would like to see an "unhappy" lady of the Roman Empire. A tragic figure, perhaps.

Hello, I have a "problem" with a Macrinus tetradrachm, more precisely with Prieur 1282 or see also attached image file. 

The legend on the reverse reads:
ΔHMAPX ЄΞ YΠATOC T A
Demarchos Exousias Upatos to Alpha
Tribunicians authority, Consul for the first time

The specimens I found in other auction houses also translate this as A for alpha = 1.

Example:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2067719 
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5864115 
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6782666

But is it really an A for Alpha? Or is it an Δ for Delta (= 4 = the fourth consulate)

There are many different Macrinus coins from other cities from the same period with an Δ instead of an A.
ΔHMAPX ЄΞ YΠATOC Δ

Prieur 246:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7236926 

Prieur 889:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7645915

Prieur 891:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6396991 

Prieur 1695:
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8418012 

...and many more.

However, it must also be said that there are some specimens where one may recognise an A and some specimens where one may just recognise a Δ.

So there are two versions:
ΔHMAPX ЄΞ YΠATOC T A
ΔHMAPX ЄΞ YΠATOC T Δ

I now ask myself:
1. were they all supposed to be A and some stamp cutter had accidentally made it a Δ?
2. should they all actually be a Δ and some stamp cutter had accidentally made an x out of it?
3. both A or Δ are intended (and correct), the stamp cutters assumed a first or fourth consulate respectively?
4. the auction houses misread the A, it represents a Δ?
5. the auction houses misread the Δ, it is supposed to be an A?

Does anyone shed light on this? Thanks 🙂

Attached Prieur 1281 with an A
Attached Prieur 891 with an Δ
 

Nice Porträt, I like it.

Caracalla from Antiochia Pisidia. My wish was a coin from another Antiochia … from Antiochia ad Orontem.

Edit. Oh sorry my mistake - I am too late! Please ignore my posting & wish. Admins please delete my posting. Mea culpa, mea culpa maxime!
 

You see what you want to see… but damned - now I see that too and can’t get the owl out of my head 😄

Ok, sorry, then I would like to do it again. And I hope I have translated "weird imagery" correctly for me. Here is a strange picture of a... of a... yes what is it - on the back of this Macrinus tetradrachm.

Some say it's a horned lion with wings. But it only has two legs. Others say it is a griffin. But we don't know exactly. It doesn't really look like any animal. But there is also no similar statue that could be identified with it. Perhaps it will always remain a mystery.

I don't want to take away anyone's wish, so I wish again for a "weird imagery".

2 hours ago, TuckHard said:

Next: another coin related to drinking (or music)

Drink? What could be more fitting than Dionysus himself. Here with a kantharos that seems to fall out of his hand. I think the good man has had enough to drink. 

Next: I would like to see a reverse with a party, celebration or something like that please.

Ok… great revers 😄 fantastic…

11 minutes ago, ambr0zie said:

and a Decius I like a lot

Cool... what a nice type of eagle on the reverse. Congratulation.

38 minutes ago, Alegandron said:

Nero Regnal year 8, Caesarian year 110, (AD 61/62)

Like the Nero Head on this Tetradrachm of this time.

7 minutes ago, kapphnwn said:

Ar Tetradrachm of Elagabalus Minted at Emisa 218-222 AD

Very nice, I'm still missing an Elagabalus tetradrachm.

Marcus Aurelius Severus Antoninus Caracalla
Silver Denarius, Rome, Diameter 20mm, Weight 3.23g
Av: Bust of Caracalla with a laurel wreath to the right; ANTONINVS PIVS AVG
Rv: Caracalla veiled and wearing toga standing left, right hand a patera; VOTA SVSCEPTA X
RIC IV Caracalla 179

...the pretty nose?

My three ladies...

a) Rome, robe tip to the left and to the right
b) Rome, robe tip to the right
c) Rome, robe tip to the left

Hello, one of my areas of interest are the Syro-Phoenician Tetradrachms, which can be found under Prieur. There are a few things I like about these coins. Among other things, the silver pieces are nicely sized compared to Roman denarii and these tetradrachms have wonderful portraits (especially the mintings from Laodicea, for example). A small "disadvantage" is that the motifs on the reverse do not offer such a wide choice.

Here is one of my coins.

Marcus Aurelius Severus Antoninus Caracalla
Laodicea ad Mare, 212/213 AD
Silver tetradrachm, 28.10mm, 14.30g
Prieur 1173a
Av: Draped bust of Caracalla with laurel wreath to the right; ΑΥΤ ΚΑΙ ΑΝΤΩΝЄΙΝΟC CЄ
Rv: Eagle standing facing, head and tail left, with wings spread, holding wreath in beak. Star between legs; ΔΗΜΑΡX ЄΞ ΥΠΑΤΟC ΤΟ Γ

Maybe you would also like to show your Syro-Phoenician Tetradrachms here so I can find more inspiration 🙂

On 5/31/2022 at 9:13 PM, Kaleun96 said:

I have a lot of info about my own coin photography methods on my website but it's nice to have somewhere to casually share new things I try that may not become a permanent part of my workflow but may be of use to others.

Amazing website - and thanks for this informations - very (!) helpful for beginners. I will try it.

"Lost in Space" - I have no Gordian coin, only a Gordian coin that I sold. Too bad, in a way.

My only Nero coin actually, an Tetradrachm from Antiochia ad Orontem.
Av: ΝΕΡΩΝΟΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡΟΣ ΣΕΒΑΣΤΟΥ, Rv: H IP
Year 8 of the regnal year (61/62 AD) and year 110 of the caesarian era.
25mm, 14.72g, Prieur 82 (66 ex)

...thats awesome! Where I can buy that 😄 ...?

34 minutes ago, Al Kowsky said:

One coin type I should have added to the original thread but forgot is pictured below 🙃.

Koson Stater, 1st Century BC. AR Stater: 4.12 gm, 19 mm, 11 h. RPC 1 1701. Rare. Photo courtesy of Leu Numismatik AG.

This coin was auctioned by Leu about two years ago for $2,442.00. The silver staters are rare compared to the gold ones.

Fantastic! A silver version! That's true - the silver staters very rare compared the gold ones. Congratulation.

What I don't understand in this context. If the theory was true that the koson staters were also used to finance Brutus' campaign, why are there more gold staters instead of silver ones? One could think that the gold staters were for the higher-ranking officers and their pay, and the silver coins perhaps for the "normal" soldiers. But then there would have to be more silver than gold staters. Wouldn't there?

But all that doesn't change anything - congratulations on such a rare and also very beautiful Koson stater.

Vor 1 Stunde sagte Heliodromus:

Krypto erzeugt übergroße Schlagzeilen für eine eher dünn gehaltene "Ware". Es ist für die meisten Menschen irrelevant.

Wenn die Leute sich ihre Brokerage-Statements ansehen, dann S&P 500 20% nach unten vom Höchststand, NASDAQ 30% nach unten, Netflix 75% nach unten, Amazon 45% nach unten, Tesla 45% nach unten ...

Oder wie wäre es mit Lebensmittelpreisen, Gaspreisen, Autopreisen, Hauspreisen (gut oder schlecht, je nachdem, ob Sie besitzen oder nicht) ...

Krypto? Am wenigsten Sorgen der meisten Menschen.

 

Yes, in real terms it only generates headlines. Hardly anyone I know really invests in Bitcoins. But it's the headlines that have an indirect impact. People read this and react accordingly - even if they don't have Bitcoin.

Among acquaintances and relatives, people often discuss at meetings - what else can you buy? Call money? Shares? Funds? Bitcoin? And headlines like today's with the Bitcoin - unsettle people - even if they are not directly affected by it. All these headlines give them the impression that money / virtual money is no longer (so) safe.

So I'd rather invest my money somewhere else. Renovate my house. Buy a painting. A classic car. Coins. Gold.

Vor 48 Minuten sagte AncientJoe:

Ich kenne zwei High-End-Sammler, die in letzter Zeit viele bedeutende Münzen gekauft haben, nachdem sie ihr Vermögen in Bitcoin verdient haben (la, ich habe noch nie welche besessen, obwohl ich mir dessen in meiner Branche sehr bewusst war). Beide haben die meisten ihrer Bestände diversifiziert und sich im Laufe der Zeit schrittweise verkauft, so dass ich keine wesentlichen Auswirkungen erwarten würde.

I admit I did that to a limited extent when I sold my Bitcoins. But I had only used "play money" - not an extremely high amount in Bitcoins. And when that was sold, I remembered my old hobby again and started collecting.

I just saw that Bitcoin is currently just under -10%. It's a good thing that I had already sold all my Bitcoins at 56,000 euros months ago. 

But on the subject. I am not a financial expert and can therefore only share my personal assessment.

If it has an impact, then I think it will be more in the direction that the prices for "hard goods" will rise even further. Money is not really something solid. Bitcoins are no better - all this is not a real equivalent. Real gold, a classic car or even coins are something "tangible" for many people. 

For example, I have been trying to organise a classic car for a friend for two months. When you thought the prices of classic cars had already risen abnormally in the last few years and you thought the bubble would soon burst, the prices have risen again this year. I just can't get a decent vintage car bought in good condition at a fair price. Too many people are investing in real things right now.

The uncertain coming Corona autumn and winter, the uncertain situation in Ukraine with Russia, the uncertain situation with Taiwan and the USA (which is escalating again) and the uncertain money and interest rate policy are causing money to move elsewhere.

But these are just the thoughts of a private person. As I said, I am not a financial expert or some guru who would even know how the future will play out.

Maybe soon a good time to buy some bitcoin again when the bottom is found. 

I was planning to buy an ancient Greek coin or two again yesterday. But the prices seemed to have no end again. The question will soon arise - whether you can still buy coins with a clear conscience - or whether you are not buying completely overpriced in the meantime. Of course, one always has a loss when buying - one would have to sell again. But the prices are approaching a high where, in my view, the loss on a sale is far too high.

7 hours ago, Romancollector said:

Gallienus (AD 253-268)

AE Antoninianus (21mm, 2.74 g). Cologne mint. AD 257-258. GALLIENVS•P•F•AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right / GERMANICVS AVG V, Trophy between two captives at base. RIC Vi (Lyons) 18; Göbl 872d (Cologne).

 Ex CGB Numismatics Paris.

 

Oh, I like the portrait style. 

Hello Octavius, please excuse the OT. First, a truly beautiful Republican coin in such rare magnificent condition. Congratulations!

One question please. What program did you use to get the image like this. Is it possible to explain it briefly? Thank you.