maridvnvm Posted March 1 · Member Share Posted March 1 I have generally stopped collecting the later eastern issues of Septimius Severus. I do make the occasional exception and this is one such occasion. It isn't a scarce coin but I was swayed by the Michael Kelly collection provenance as I didn't have a Kelly coin in my collection. Obv:– L SEP SEVERVS PER AVG P M IMP XI, laureate head right Rev:– PAR AR AD TR P VI COS II P P, Victory advancing left, holding wreath and palm Minted in Laodicea ad Mare, A.D. 198 References:– BMCRE 625. RIC 495, RSC 361 Ex Spink Auction 18055, Lot 448. Ex. Michael Kelly Collection 3.97 gms, 19.07 mm. 0 degrees 13 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali Posted March 1 · Member Share Posted March 1 Handsome coin, well centered and nicely over weight too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted March 1 · Supporter Share Posted March 1 That is a beautiful coin, all around! Heavy, too. Congratulations! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted March 2 · Member Author Share Posted March 2 It snow sits nicely alongside coins from earlier issues. These coins form part of a series of Victory coins celebrating Severus' victories in the east. The coin above is an early (though not quite earliest... see below) issue with titles on the Eastern denarii after the capture of Ctesiphon Obv:– L SEPT SEV PERT AVG IMP VII-I, Laureate head right Rev:– ARAB ADIABENIC, Victory advancing left holding wreath and palm (R of ARAB corrected over B) Minted in Laodicea-ad-Mare. A.D. 196-197 Ref:– Cohen -, BMCRE -, RIC -. The reverse refers to victory over Niger. To hide the fact that this was a civil war, it is phrased as victory over Arabs and Adiabenians, who aided Niger's cause. This was pre-Ctesiphon. The Eastern New-Style mint ("Laodicea-ad-Mare") had taken to copying its legends and most of its types from Rome-mint coins, but it had obviously heard the news from Ctesiphon before the Roman mint did. It would appear that Septimius had accepted the title of Parthicus after the victory and the title was added to the Arabicus and Adiabenicus older titles from the above. As such we get IMP XI, and Parthicus. The earliest form being shown from the following very rare issue with teh very odd PIV and P M awkwardly placed in the obverse legend. Obv:– L SEP SEVERVS PER AVG PIV IMP XI PAR P M, laureate head right Rev:– AR AD [T]R P VI COS II P P, Victory walking left, holding wreath in right hand, palm in left Eastern mint. A.D. 198 Reference:– BMCRE page 280 *, citing RD page 105. RIC 494a corr. We know that at Rome, the Senate amplified Parthicus to Parthicus Maximus and the mint used just this new title on the coins, IMP XI PART MAX removing the older victory titles relating to the Arabs and Adiabenici. The OP coin fitting here in the series before the following issue Obv:– L SEPT SEV AVG IMP XI PART MAX, Laureate head right Rev:– VICT PARTHICAE, Victory walking left, holding wreath in right hand, trophy over left shoulder; captive left. Minted in Laodicea-ad-Mare. A.D. 198-202 Reference:– RIC IV 514; BMCRE 672; RSC 741. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted March 2 · Member Share Posted March 2 Beautiful coins! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted March 7 · Member Author Share Posted March 7 A quick chat with the seller of the OP coin led me to a second purchase and a second ex. Kelly coin for the collection. I certainly didn't need another RIC 424 to add to my collection as I already have 5 different examples but this is the only one I have with the slightly odder COS - II obverse legend break. Septimius Severus denarius Obv:– IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS - II, Laureate head right Rev:– VICT AVG, Victory walking left, holding wreath in right hand, palm in left Minted in Emesa, A.D. 194 - 195 References:– BMCRE 395, VM 150/1, RIC 424, RSC 675a Ex Spink Auction 18055, Lot 435. Ex. Michael Kelly Collection 2.74 g, 18.02 mm. 180 degree 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsmit Posted March 8 · Member Share Posted March 8 7 hours ago, maridvnvm said: slightly odder COS - II obverse legend break How many different dies with this COS--II break are there? I don't have the VICT AVG with it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted March 8 · Member Author Share Posted March 8 @dougsmit I have an example from your first obverse die but with a LIEBRAL AVG reverse I think the following is similar in style to but I don't think is an obverse die match to your second coin. Mine has a FORTVNA REDVCI, Fortuna (pax?) type. There is the "COS" obverse die that has two very fine strokes below the bust that could be II I also have this one from my "Short obverse legend" sub-collection. I haven't seen any other examples from this obverse die and neither had Curtis Clay when last we discussed it. Obv:– IMP CA L SEP S-EV PER AVG COS - II, Laureate head right Rev:– LIBE-R AVG, Liberalitas standing left, holding abacus in right hand, cornucopiae in left 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsmit Posted March 13 · Member Share Posted March 13 On 3/8/2024 at 4:23 AM, maridvnvm said: There is the "COS" obverse die that has two very fine strokes below the bust that could be II I have seen a very high grade die duplicate to my poor example. The reverse would suggest this was a very early die for COS II (assuming those strokes are II). 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted March 14 · Member Author Share Posted March 14 (edited) I saw that example too. I don't have an AETERNITAS AVS (sic) type because the only other one I have seen is I think the one you are referring to, which hit the market several times from between 2001 and 2018. This coin illustrated below (not mine - Auction image). I used to take an interest in this obverse die but have since focussed elsewhere . Most of my examples suffer in a variety of ways, wear, off-centre strike etc. My best example of the obverse die is the one above. Here are some of the examples of the obverse die that I have obtained. Same die pair as my example above:- Same obverse die but two different MARTI VICT reverse dies Martin Edited March 15 by maridvnvm 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulla80 Posted March 16 · Supporter Share Posted March 16 (edited) I find it interesting to see that there is a Pescennius Niger coin with SAETERNITAS AVS (not my coin : ex Leu May 27 2023) Edited March 16 by Sulla80 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsyas Mike Posted March 24 · Member Share Posted March 24 On 3/7/2024 at 3:21 PM, maridvnvm said: I certainly didn't need another RIC 424 to add to my collection as I already have 5 different examples but this is the only one I have with the slightly odder COS - II obverse legend break. Septimius Severus denarius Obv:– IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS - II, Laureate head right Rev:– VICT AVG, Victory walking left, holding wreath in right hand, palm in left Minted in Emesa, A.D. 194 - 195 References:– BMCRE 395, VM 150/1, RIC 424, RSC 675a I just got one of these - my first (five more to go!!). Septimius Severus Denarius (194-195 A.D.) Emesa/Uncertain Eastern Mint IMP CAE L SEP [SEV PERT A]VG COS II, laureate head right VICT [AVG], Victory walking left, holding wreath and palm over shoulder RIC IV 424; BMCRE 395; Cohen RSC 675a; VM 150/1. (2.90 grams / 17 x 16 mm) eBay March 2024 It is rather awful in execution, but I did find an obverse die-match, with die-flaw (cud?) on obverse legend: Die-Match Obverse: TimeLine Auctions May 2019 Antiquities & Coins Auction; Lot 3799; 28.05.2019 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=6032718 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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