Benefactor kirispupis Posted February 10 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted February 10 Recently, I purchased a coin that I'm extremely curious about. I suspect the attribution, but I want to be much more cautious after what happened the last time. Luckily, I paid very little for it so I'm not going to be devastated if I got it wrong. Here's the coin in question along with its original attribution. Thessaly, Skotussa circa 400-375 BCE Chalkous Æ 15 mm, 2,38 g In this case, I can certainly see why it was attributed to Skotussa, and that may be correct. Here's a very nice copy of the coin type that led them to this. NOTE: NOT MY COIN Chalkous (Bronze, 12mm, 1.87 g 3). Head of youthful, beardless Herakles to left, wearing lion skin headdress. Rev. Σ - Κ Kantharos. BCD II, 739.1 Here are other copies of the same type. https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=10155584 https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2972646 Given the Σ - Κ underneath the kantharos and the original attribution from BCD, who I presume had a find location, I would agree with the attribution of Skotussa. However, I'm not entirely sure my coin is of the same type. What intrigued me is there appears to be some lettering to the right of the portrait on the obverse. Although this could just be wishful thinking, it certainly resembles to me a ΠΡ. I'm therefore wondering whether it could be this very rare type from Tziambazis. I know of one example of this coin that has sold - https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5704499 The reverse is unfortunately too off center and worn to display either the Σ - Κ that would align it with Skotussa or the BA that would push it to Praxippos. The obverse of my coin does not resemble Herakles to my eyes, but I'm also not absolutely sure it's Apollo. The ΠΡ is not visible on Roma's coin, but can be seen on Tziambazis' coin and seems to be on mine. What do you think? Am I tripping? As I mentioned, I spent very little on it. If my guess of an attribution is correct, this would be an extremely important acquisition. If I'm wrong, then I spent less than a typical order of fries, so it's fine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Anthos Posted February 10 · Member Share Posted February 10 I can't really see any distinguishable letters although it does look like something is there. However the style of the bust looks more like Apollo to me, and the shape of the kantharos handles suggest a similarity to the Praxippos specimen to my eye. ~ Peter 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted February 10 · Member Share Posted February 10 I don't think the obverse character wears a lion skin headdress. So unless you can find a match for your obverse and Skotusa, I think the original attribution is wrong and what you suspect is closer to the truth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth77 Posted February 10 · Member Share Posted February 10 I also think that your variant fits better: no sign of the lion headdress, the angle between head and back of the neck fits, the two extremes of the neck truncation look nothing like the lion headdress type, the lettering is there and it does look like ΠΡ. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted February 10 · Member Share Posted February 10 Certainly appears to be the Praxippos type. Here's a slightly better photo of the BM coin from WildWinds: https://www.wildwinds.com/coins/greece/cyprus/lapethos/i.html 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted February 10 · Member Share Posted February 10 I agree it is Praxippos. The letters ΠΡ can be seen behind the neck of the portrait, which is clearly not Heracles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted February 10 · Supporter Share Posted February 10 I think you are right, @kirispupis. As others have noted, it certainly doesn't look like a lionskin headdress, and it does match the Roma coin extremely closely in my opinion, to the extent that I wonder if the two are obverse die matches? I could be wrong but the angles do seem to match very well. The presence of the letters behind the bust seem to match your attribution as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor kirispupis Posted February 10 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted February 10 Wow! I'm still trying to hold back a bit after what happened last time, but I'm beginning to get excited! The funny thing is I almost didn't bid on this coin. I went through the auction several times without noticing it, and I was planning to not participate because I didn't see anything other than the Philetairos tet that went for 6k (I didn't even try bidding for it). When I noticed this coin, I figured it couldn't possibly be. I went through my notes on the type and looked up the Roma coin and it certainly looked intriguing. I then found myself wishing I could find a copy of Tziambazis online, but then remembered that I'd actually bought a copy some time ago. This coin was on my Priority 1 list, consisting of people around the time of Philip II, Alexander III, and the Era of the Diadochi. It was one of five coins on that list and all are enormously difficult. I wasn't collecting ancients when the Roma coin came up for sale, so I wasn't sure whether I'd have an opportunity even to bid on a Praxippos coin in my lifetime. In that respect, it's an even bigger catch than the Mykonos coin that turned out to be Skamandros - since even Mykonos was a Priority 2. For those unfamiliar with Praxippos, he was the last independent king of Lapethos (Cyprus). Unlike several other kings of Cyprus, there's no evidence that he participated in the Siege of Tyre. However, after Alexander's death he allied with Antigonos I Monophthalmos, but switched sides again when he was besieged by Seleukos. That last part (Seleukos) is from Who's who of Alexander and his Successors. Tzambiazis, however, mentions he was deposed by Ptolemy I, which makes more sense. Ptolemy sent his brother Menelaos to conquer the island, and those kings who allied with Antigonos were put to death. With this coin, I've now completed my collection of ancient Cypriot kingdoms. There were twelve kingdoms around the time of Alexander the Great. Chytroi, Ledrai, and Tamassos did not mint any coins I'm aware of Marion, Paphos, Kourion, Amathos, Kition, Salamis, Soloi, and now Lapethos I have Idalion ceased minting coins in 445 BCE per Tziambazis and therefore does not fall in my collection period 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor kirispupis Posted February 10 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Heliodromus said: Certainly appears to be the Praxippos type. Here's a slightly better photo of the BM coin from WildWinds: Thanks for finding this! It definitely appears to be the type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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