NewStyleKing Posted November 13, 2023 · Member Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) This NewStyle is slap bang in the coins that sit astride the contentious Rome-Pontic times. Times where the politics of Athens were split between those who supported Rome and those who supported Eupator of Pontus. So this competition was tearing apart Athens, so what is more suitable than this coin with the personification of competition...the Agon! Anywhere where is a tension be it in a play, in politics in a arena on the playing field, the minor god/personification Agon symbolises this tension. This is where we get the words Agony, Agonist, protagonist, antagonist, etc from. I have looked hard but there appears to be NO clear statue of Agon I can find so the best representation is on the coins of the Athenian NewStyle. Can any help here-I issue the challenge ? A figure with a headdress of some type which I cannot make out..looks like a spiked/helios type headdress, with Nike's wings symbolising victory, a palm leaf, again symbolising victory, a chlamys, and in his hands...apparently(!) dumbbells that are used in jumping completions to give you an extended effort called halteres, of which examples still exist. Is this symbol just a comment of the time or is the first magistrate Aropos, issuing a challenge? Who will take up the glove! No, I cannot believe this was anything other than a deliberate symbol, thus a key coin for these troubled times. A good strong mintage of 25 obverses, 61 reverses and issues of 11 Athenian months. This is obverse die-linked to Coiled Serpent whose magistrates issued the Roma coin of my last post and thus associated with the pro-Roman side! Enjoy- the 2nd coin is mine. Edited November 13, 2023 by NewStyleKing 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtisimo Posted November 14, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) Nice coin @NewStyleKing. Agon is shown on a relief sculpture of the Sebasteion of Aphrodisia. The relief shows a Herm (Hermes is associated with the gymnasium). There is a table at left with a victory ribbon and victory palm. The cupids represent the conflict because they struggle over the palm branch. Agon is the youthful athlete overseeing the struggle while holding another palm. Edited November 14, 2023 by Curtisimo 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted November 14, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 @Curtisimo Thanks for unravelling the grouping. I'd seen it but didn't understand it. Now , is there a winged Agon around? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted November 14, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 The Agon figure on my coin seems very syncratic, he has some kind of headdress which I cannot fathom, the wings of Nike and/or possible Hermes and a cloak chlamys also of Hermes, so maybe they were getting a all in one representation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted November 14, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2023 My little Agon is simpler still. Strange little "R" next to his head, likely by chance. No sign of headwear. I've never been able to find anything helpful visually before, so thank you @Curtisimo too. Just lots of comments on the very varied form Agon took, from theatre, to war, to games, to religion, even to St Paul. Here he is in all his "very good" grade glory. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted November 14, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) @Deinomenid Where's the full photos and details? Edited November 14, 2023 by NewStyleKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted November 14, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 I guess the cap thing could a be a wreath? A wreath awarded to victors? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted November 14, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, NewStyleKing said: Where's the full photos and details? It's hard to see any of the full exquisite details from a longer-range shot but if you insist! - Please be aware I use a list of dates you posted a good while ago for my own, so they are only as good as yours. Or worse, as my interpretation of yours.... ATTICA. Athens 96/5.. Tetradrachm (Silver, 29 mm, 15.92 g), Aropos, Mnasago and Apol..., magistrates, . Head of Athena Parthenos to right, wearing triple-crested Attic helmet adorned with Pegasos and long tendril on the bowl, and with the foreparts of four horses above the visor. Rev. A-ΘE / APO-ΠOΣ / MNA/ΣA/ΓO / AΠΟΛ Owl standing facing on Amphora; to right, winged Agon standing facing, holding palm; on amphora, B; in exergue, ΣΟ. Thompson -, cf. 992-4 (A on amphora). Struck from a worn obverse die and with minor traces of corrosion, otherwise, about very fine (ha!). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted November 14, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) @Deinomenid T 992 New Reverse B on amphora...Any signs of undertype of A? Edited November 14, 2023 by NewStyleKing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted November 14, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted November 14, 2023 2 hours ago, NewStyleKing said: .Any signs of undertype of A Sorry, kept at bank. But I only have a 10x magnification which doesn't show more than that photo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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