Topcat7 Posted June 29, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 29, 2022 (edited) I have this small bronze coin that appears to have the head of a (peasant) man wearing a hat, on one side and a (prancing) horse left with a 'P' behind the forelegs on the other. Of course I may well be wide of the mark in my assessment, as my eyes "aint what they used to be". I am guessing the 'Greek' part, too. Any assistance is appreciated The measurements are AE16.6mm., 2.43gm. Edited July 4, 2022 by Topcat7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted July 4, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) What? No-one has any ideas? I have seen the horse many times but the man in the hat looks somewhat familiar, too. Edited July 4, 2022 by Topcat7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamnaskires Posted July 4, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) Did you mean 16.6 mm, TC? The obverse is helmeted - and the helmet may be crested. The style is crude. It may be a contemporary imitation of a Pella, Macedon issue with Athena/cow grazing. Some of those counterfeits had cows facing left. (The official prototypes had right-facing cows.) Another possibility - perhaps worth looking at given the wear (and how unclear the reverse is, as a result) - might be Phliasia issues of Phlious, with Athena/butting bull combo. Edited July 4, 2022 by Kamnaskires 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herodotus Posted July 4, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 4, 2022 (edited) I too am getting an Athena/Cow(or Horse) grazing vibe as well. I think that @Kamnaskiresis likely spot on here. The one other coin type that the reverse reminds me a little of are the ones that were minted in Pontos, Amisos (under Mithradates VI); portraying Perseus on the obverse, and Pegasos grazing on the reverse. However, I'm not too confident it's a match, as the helmet in the OP looks more Corinthian in style than that of a Phrygian cap. These also vary in size from around 22-25mm, so..... I have an example of the type, but it's not yet photographed. Here is another example recently offered by Savoca: Edited July 4, 2022 by Herodotus 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted July 4, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 20 hours ago, Kamnaskires said: Did you mean 16.6 mm, TC? The obverse is helmeted - and the helmet may be crested. The style is crude. It may be a contemporary imitation of a Pella, Macedon issue with Athena/cow grazing. Some of those counterfeits had cows facing left. (The official prototypes had right-facing cows.) Another possibility - perhaps worth looking at given the wear (and how unclear the reverse is, as a result) - might be Phliasia issues of Phlious, with Athena/butting bull combo. Yes, I did. Sorry. I have corrected the listing. Thank you Bob. It gives me somewhere's else to look. Appreciate you coming in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted July 4, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted July 4, 2022 19 hours ago, Herodotus said: I too am getting an Athena/Cow(or Horse) grazing vibe as well. I think that @Kamnaskiresis likely spot on here. The one other coin type that the reverse reminds me a little of are the ones that were minted in Pontos, Amisos (under Mithradates VI); portraying Perseus on the obverse, and Pegasos grazing on the reverse. However, I'm not too confident it's a match, as the helmet in the OP looks more Corinthian in style than that of a Phrygian cap. These also vary in size from around 22-25mm, so..... I have an example of the type, but it's not yet photographed. Here is another example recently offered by Savoca: @Herodotus Thank you, too. Another lead to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted July 5, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 5, 2022 Another lead you can follow is Larissa https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7223189 I know the reverse seems a helmeted character but the wear may cause this illusion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted July 5, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted July 5, 2022 14 hours ago, ambr0zie said: Another lead you can follow is Larissa https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=7223189 I know the reverse seems a helmeted character but the wear may cause this illusion. Going there now. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted July 6, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 The closest I can get (notwithstanding that the horse is facing right rather than left is . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted July 6, 2022 · Member Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) That is probably the closest possible. Edited July 6, 2022 by ambr0zie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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