Topcat7 Posted September 15, 2023 · Member Share Posted September 15, 2023 (edited) I have this (worn) coin that I am having difficulty placing. It appears to have a head facing right on the obverse with a boy on horseback galloping right on the reverse. There could be an inscription below the horse (or a monogram). (The position of the horse's back legs on my coin do not seem to line up with the Philip II coin, though.) Any help is appreciated. Thank you. AE14mm., 2.80gm. Edited September 15, 2023 by Topcat7 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted September 18, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 Possibly Thessaly??? 350-300 B.C. THESSALY Krannon Dichalkon HGC 4, 384 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor kirispupis Posted September 18, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 18, 2023 21 minutes ago, Topcat7 said: Possibly Thessaly??? 350-300 B.C. THESSALY Krannon Dichalkon HGC 4, 384 Thessaly seems the most likely option here. Both Krannon and Phalanna issued similar types. The weight seems to match Phalanna a bit better, but there are several Thessalian mints that are possible. Below are a few of mine. Note that each minted several different denominations. Thessaly. Phalanna circa 325-300 BCE Æ 15 mm, 4,60 g Helmeted head of Ares left ΦΑΛΑNNΑΙΩΝ, horse prancing right Papaevangelou-Genakos 10; Rogers –; BCD Thessaly I 1257; BCD Thessaly II 576; HGC 4, 172 Thessaly, Phakion 3rd century BCE Æ Trichalkon 20mm, 7.00g, 12h Diademed head of nymph r. R/ Warrior on horse trotting r.; grain ear below. BCD Thessaly I 1249; BCD Thessaly II 566; HGC 4, 542 Thessaly, Pelinna Æ Dichalkon (20mm, 7.49g, 12h) late 4th to early 3rd centuries BCE Head of Mantho veiled r. R/ Helmeted Thessalian rider wearing chlamys and short tunic, charging r. with couched lance on prancing horse. BCD Thessaly 534.1; Rogers 432; HGC 4, 275 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted September 18, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted September 18, 2023 @kirispupis Thank you for that. It gives me another direction to explore. Lovely coins BTW. Thanks for sharing. Exactly the style and grade I normally go for. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted October 2, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted October 2, 2023 I believe that I might be on the right track with this. Similar to: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor kirispupis Posted October 2, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 2, 2023 11 minutes ago, Topcat7 said: I believe that I might be on the right track with this. Similar to: The problem is the weight and size are off - 20mm/8.64g vs 14mm/2.80g. The look also isn't right. I went through my coins of Thessaly and didn't see a great match. There seems to be some lettering on the reverse. You may be able to make it out better with the coin in hand + magnifying glass, but the letter at 6 o'clock seems to be an 'M'. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted October 3, 2023 · Patron Share Posted October 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Topcat7 said: I believe that I might be on the right track with this. Similar to: I was just going to suggest it's not a horse and rider, but Artemis Tauropolos on a bull but you beat me to it. Amphipolis used the design for well over a century. See, for example these in my collection. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted October 4, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 6:59 AM, kirispupis said: the letter at 6 o'clock seems to be an 'M'. and the one after it an 'I' possibly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted October 4, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted October 4, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 6:59 AM, kirispupis said: The problem is the weight and size are off - 20mm/8.64g vs 14mm/2.80g. The look also isn't right. That is why I said "similar to". Did they make a similar coin (but smaller and lighter)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor kirispupis Posted October 4, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Topcat7 said: and the one after it an 'I' possibly? That's what I thought, but there aren't too many results from a search. From a closer look, I think 'MH' is more likely. The latter before it may be an 'A' or a 'Δ'. I didn't find any strong matches, but I suspect making sense of the inscription is your best bet for an attribution given the condition of the rest of the coin. It may be easier to read them with a magnifying glass and the coin in hand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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