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Not perfect, but this is my first uncut Richard I penny and first that is undesputedly his. Even though the legend says 'Henricus'. I also have a Richard I cut halfpenny but it's Class 4b, which is listed in Spink as Richard I, but elsewhere as John - that type was struck across the join in their reigns. This, on the other hand, is Class 3, firmly in Richard I's reign.

Richard I Class 3ab2 Penny, 1190-1194

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London. Silver, 1.40g. Crowned facing bust with sceptre to the left, 7 pearls to crown, whiskers made up of small curls up side of face; ҺЄNRICVS R ЄX. Voided short cross with quatrefoils of pellets in angles within inner beaded circle; WILLELM · ON · LV (moneyer Willelm) (S 1347; SCBI Mass 812, this coin). Ex Professor Jeffrey P Mass. From the Wainfleet (Lincolnshire) Hoard 1990, 380 short cross pennies and 3 halfpennies deposited before 1205.

Like John, Richard I's pennies aren't too expensive, so I'm sure many other people have them.

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My first medieval coin was a Richard I from Poitou:

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French Feudal - Poitou; Richard I, r. 1168-1185; AR Denier, 17mm x 1 grams; Obv.: +RICARDUS REX, cross patée, annulet in third quarter; Rev.: PIC / TAVIE / NSIS, written in three parallel lines; Ref.: AGC 343A (1/a), Duplessy 926, Roberts 3887, SCBC 8008, De Wit 394; Note: My First Medieval Coin

I later got an English issue:

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England; Richard I, r. 1189-1199 A.D.; London Mint, AR Class 4a Short Cross Penny, 20.06mm x 1.8 grams; Obv.: [hEN]RICVS R[EX].  Bust facing seven pearled crown with sceptre; Rev.: +[RIC]ARD . ON . LVN.  Short cross voided with quatrefoil in each angle; Ref.: North 968/1, SCBC 1347, CC99 R11D-010, De Witt 3193

and recently one from Aquitaine.  Unfortunatly I don’t have a photo of the Aquitaine denier. Although I do have a photo of a Richard Obol from Aquitaine:

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French Feudal - Aquitaine; Richard I, r. 1168-1185; Bordeaux Mint, BL Obole, 14.20 mm x 0.40 grams; Obv.: + / RICA / RDVS / ω, in four lines; Rev.: +AQVITANIE, cross pattée; Ref.: AGC 6 (1/a), Duplessy 1034, SCBC 8005, De Wit 400

Now I just need to get one from Cyprus and one from Issoudun…

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...Yeah, well, @FitzNigel, good luck on both of those!!!

But it's resonantly cool that your first medieval was a Richard of Poitou. 

Couldn't tell you for sure (I was a kid), but yet another example was easily one of the first western /non-Byzantine ones I ever got.  This was at a conspicuously, never mind improbably small, local coin show.  Blew my head off.  It's like, everyone and their dog has heard of Richard the Lionheart, and there's his name, big as numismatic life.  ...Yep, it was a good start.

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2 hours ago, UkrainiiVityaz said:

I think it is curious that if you want a coin with the monarch's regnal name you have to get something from Ireland(John) or France(Richard).  And I have never owned a Richard coin - though I wouldn't mind owning a Richard III groat.

I believe it was because Richard and John wanted to carry forward the aura of their father, Henry II. It was normal for the Angevins in France to 'immobilise' their coinage if you were from a successful dynasty.

A Richard III groat is something else altogether.

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25 minutes ago, John Conduitt said:

I believe it was because Richard and John wanted to carry forward the aura of their father, Henry II. It was normal for the Angevins in France to 'immobilise' their coinage if you were from a successful dynasty.

A Richard III groat is something else altogether.

Well, whence your planted in a car park you knoweth thou hath fallen thus from grace.

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...Well, why not.  Here's my John penny of Ireland, issued as king, c. 1207-1211.  Commonest of the whole series.  His earlier halfpence, issued under Richard, 1190-1198, are Really fun, and correspondingly pricey.  

John was initially granted the collective, somewhat vague 'lordship' of Ireland, at the expense of very much in England or the Angevin holdings in France.  ...Most of the latter of which he proceeded to lose to Philippe II.  (Edit:) Hence the nickname, 'Lackland.'  Kind of resonant from both sides of his career.

Here, the legends go: 'IOHA [/] NNES [/] REX;' ROBE [/] RD [moneyer] ON [/] DIVC [Dublin]. 

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Spink, Scotland, Ireland, and the Isles [...etc.; 2015; #6228] notes that these royal issues conform to the weight and fineness of the Short Cross pennies in England.  ...Which might provide a clue to why, even with the dramatic difference in motifs, their legends perpetuate the bilingual formula going back to late Anglo-Saxon issues; the obverse in Latin, and the reverse, with the moneyer and mint, in (late Old /) early Middle English.

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AR Denier

+RICARDVS REX" around a cross

PIC/TAVIE/NSIS

0.78 g.

Roberts 3886

 

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Cyprus, Crusaders. Richard I 'the Lionheart' Æ Tetarteron. Uncertain mint in Cyprus, after AD 1191. 

Crowned facing bust, holding cross-tipped sceptre and globus cruciger 

Cross on three steps; arms ending in R E X. 

18x19.8 mm  /  1.40  gr. 

Metcalf, Lusignan p. 2; Bendall, A Cypriot Coin of Richard I Lion-heart?, NumCirc April 2002, pp. 62-63; Schultze, A Cypriot Coin of Richard I Lion-heart", NumCirc February 2003, pp. 6-7; Bendall, "Richard I in Cyprus Again", NumCirc April 2004, pp. 85-86. ;  Orlyk , "Coins in Byzantine Style with the Latin Letters R-E-X " NumChronicle 181 , 2021 , PL 32 - 22( This coin ) 

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