NathanB Posted April 3, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) Help! A while ago, a dealer friend of mine asked me to identify some coins for him. I took some pictures of them when I was with him, but they are so far gone, and my knowledge very much lacking, that I do not know what they are. Unfortunately, I neglected to get the weights or diameters, but I think the membership here will likely be able to tell me what each of them is regardless as they seem quite distinctive. There are five coins I am looking to identify. I'm under no illusions as to their (lack of) value, but I'd still like to be able to let him know what they are. Coin #1: On what I assume is the obverse, I seem to see a robed figure with a headdress standing left, and holding in his left hand a staff, and in his right, an orb surmounted by a cross. I can't make heads or tails (pardon the pun!) out of the other side at all, unless it's a horse of some kind. Coin #2: The coin above seems to have a person sitting or standing, and facing the viewer. The reverse has Arabic script, but I do not know what it says. It seems clear enough for the most part, though. Coin #3 The obverse has a really cool cat of some sort; the reverse, at a guess, shows an elephant or a horse--or maybe something else entirely. Coin #4 This coin reminds me of some of the ancient Jewish coins, but I am not sure. I do not even know if I have rotated the coin correctly, and in any case I have no idea what is on the second side. Coin #5 The last coin is obviously not ancient, and reminds me of various 19th-20th century coins that I used to see a long time ago. Unfortunately, the only thing I can say about it is that it is Islamic with Arabic script. If anybody can help me out with this, I would be most grateful, and then I can pass on the info to my friend. Thank you very much in advance! Edited April 15, 2023 by NathanB homonym correction 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted April 3, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2023 (edited) The last one is Ottoman, like this https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces22661.html They might all be from that region. The cat looks like a typical akce/pulo/fals. Edited April 3, 2023 by John Conduitt 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted April 3, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 3, 2023 I think coin #1 is Constans II. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted April 3, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted April 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Nerosmyfavorite68 said: I think coin #1 is Constans II. Yes some sort of 40 nummi. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted April 3, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 3, 2023 Hi, @NathanB, and thanks for some interesting puzzles! I can second @Nerosmyfavorite68 and @John Conduitt about the early Byzantine 40 nummi at the top. I was wondering if it was Arab-Byzantine, but as people have pointed out in the Byzantine forum, official issues from the 7th century are plenty crude on their own watch. I'm resonating with your assessment of Coin 4; the sort-of parasol and imitative, neo-Macedonian helmet are Herod, I think. But you're right; the style looks off, and the lettering is looking more Latin than Greek, let alone Hebrew. I want to think there were other neighboring issues that also imitated the Macedonian helmet, with that record-breaking plume. Coin 2 triangulates very easily to give you a broad neighborhood. AEs that combine figurative elements with fully realized Arabic script like this are almost all from Turks or their near neighbors, in or near modern Turkey. --Other people here know Tons about this stuff! They run to being 12th-13th c. CE, with the more iconic AE issues centered in the 12th. Yours evokes this one, for instance. https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=269860 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLTcoins Posted April 4, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 4, 2023 (edited) #2: Ayyubids of al-Jazirah, al-Ashraf Musa, 1210-1220, AE dirham citing the Ayyubid sultan al-'Adil Abu Bakr as overlord and the 'Abbasid caliph al-Nasir, no mint [Mayyafariqin], dated AH 612. Balog 849. Edited April 4, 2023 by DLTcoins 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanB Posted April 4, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted April 4, 2023 Thank you very much, each one of you! These are all very helpful contributions. (On my phone at the moment, which is why this comment is brief.) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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