antwerpen2306 Posted January 13, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 13, 2023 obverse : (L SE)PT SEV PER / T AUG IM(P ?) reverse : FORT REDUC 16,6 mm, 2,8 gr, 12 h. mint : Laodicea I have identified this coin as RIC 477a, R2, Imp VIII, AD 196/7. There is also an unpublished similar coin for IMP II. Is it possible to be sure for the date, based on the image? 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted January 13, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted January 13, 2023 Nice coin with two cornucopia. I'll share a Severus "travel" coin which coincides with his voyage to Britannia to fight the Picts in the North, asking for the intercession of Neptune for a safe journey. Holding the Tribunician Power for the XVIIIth year argues for a mint date close to the end of his reign. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted January 13, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 13, 2023 The OP is definitively RIC 477a. A full readinf of the obverse legend would be "L SEPT SEV PER-T AVG IMP VII-I" I have two other reverses from the same obverse die. I am not convinced that the scarcity of the type would still hold at R2. It is realtively scarce but not rare. I have three examples of this reverse for the IMP VIII series. As far as the IMP II series goeswhilst it may be unlublished in the major references I think it no more that Scarce at best. I have at least five examples of the type but each having different merits / attributes making them of interest to my specilaism in this area. Obv:– L SEPT SEV P-ERET AVG IMP I-I, Laureate head right Rev:– FORT R-D-EVC Obv:– L SEP SEV PERTE AVG IMP II, Laureate head right Rev:– FORT R-DEVC Obv:– L SEP SEV PE-RT AVG IMP II, Laureate head right Rev:– FORT R-E-DVC Regards, Martin 12 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted January 13, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 kool coin...how'd you talk @maridvnvm out of one? 😛 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted January 29, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 I have a problem with the reverse inscription : FORT REDUC, Fortuna staying with 2 cornucopiae. The usual version is Fortuna ReduX, redux being a substantive meaning :who is coming back. The usual illustration on this coin is Fortuna seated, holding in the right hand a rudder, which rests on a globe and in the left a cornucopia. The meaning is that Fortuna protected the emperor coming back from a war or a journey. Here we have reduC and Fortuna with 2 cornucopiae. It is possible it is an error, but I don't think so because the cornucopiae, meaning abundance, fecundity and happiness. I think the transscription is Fortuna reducit or reducta : Fortuna brings back ( the good times) or (The good times) are back by Fortuna. The coin has been minted in 196/197, the year Severus defeated Clodius Albinus near Lugdunum, the civil war came to an end and he became the sole emperor. What is your opinion ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted January 29, 2023 · Patron Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, antwerpen2306 said: I have a problem with the reverse inscription : FORT REDUC, Fortuna staying with 2 cornucopiae. The usual version is Fortuna ReduX, redux being a substantive meaning :who is coming back. The usual illustration on this coin is Fortuna seated, holding in the right hand a rudder, which rests on a globe and in the left a cornucopia. The meaning is that Fortuna protected the emperor coming back from a war or a journey. Here we have reduC and Fortuna with 2 cornucopiae. It is possible it is an error, but I don't think so because the cornucopiae, meaning abundance, fecundity and happiness. I think the transscription is Fortuna reducit or reducta : Fortuna brings back ( the good times) or (The good times) are back by Fortuna. The coin has been minted in 196/197, the year Severus defeated Clodius Albinus near Lugdunum, the civil war came to an end and he became the sole emperor. What is your opinion ? Maybe. The grammatical argument is weak because reduc- is the stem and the C only becomes X when the nominative ending S is added to it: C+S=X. In any of the oblique cases, it stays as C, so it's not hard to imagine the inscription could be short for the dative Fortunae reduci. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted January 29, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 29, 2023 Also maybe, but then I prefer an ablative Fortuna reduce because it was Fortuna who brings back. I know an ablative figures not often on coins, but here it is more appropriate I think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted January 29, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) The earliest eastern Fortuna types have the legends FORTNAE REDVCI.... Edited January 29, 2023 by maridvnvm 7 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted January 30, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 So, no doubt, reduci the dative is the solution, @Roman Collector has right. @maridvnvm thanks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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