CPK Posted December 31, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) I bought this one a little while ago in a group lot, without much identification. Some of you may possibly remember helping me identify it over on CoinTalk. Recently I took it out for new photos. Here it is: WITH ADJUSTED REFERENCE/DESCRIPTION Now, the references I gave in the photo are as close as I could find, but none that I could identify were an exact match. The key difference is the dotted line on the reverse - every other example I could find features a solid line. Here is the closest match I could find to this coin, from Coin Archives: CoinArchives.com Lot Viewer This coin matches my coin's obverse - with both the dolphin and the grain ear/astragalos. The reverse is very close - with the delta and monogram above (although it also has a small letter behind the bull, which apparently is missing from mine.) But as you can see, the bull in the CoinArchives example is on a solid line whereas mine is very clearly dotted. The references given for the above coin are CNS II, 109 Ds95, and HGC 2, 1490. I do not own any Greek coin references to look these up. What I'm wondering is, does anyone know/or can look to see if my exact coin type - bull on dotted border - is referenced anywhere? Is this unusual? Should I list it as a variation? With Roman coins I've got OCRE and RPC online. But Greek coins are a little more difficult and the resources I normally use - wildwinds and archive sites - seem to lack my exact coin type. Any help with these questions would be greatly appreciated! Edited December 31, 2022 by CPK 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted December 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 The reference of your coin is clearly Calciati II, 109 Ds95. It is not a dotted line , it is the exergue ΣΥΡΑΚΟΣΙΩΝ and behind Kore, it is an ear of corn and not an astragalos. The other coin seems to be the variety 109 DS95/1 (Calciati's picture is not very clear for this one) 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted December 31, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 45 minutes ago, Brennos said: The reference of your coin is clearly Calciati II, 109 Ds95. It is not a dotted line , it is the exergue ΣΥΡΑΚΟΣΙΩΝ and behind Kore, it is an ear of corn and not an astragalos. The other coin seems to be the variety 109 DS95/1 (Calciati's picture is not very clear for this one) Perfect! I found Calciati online and the reference picture matches perfectly. I will be updating my coin photo with the corrected information. Thanks so much! For what it's worth here is the Calciati reference coin: CNS - Compendium - coin details (calciati.org) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted December 31, 2022 · Supporter Author Share Posted December 31, 2022 @Brennos is this a named denomination, by the way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat7 Posted December 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) @CPK I would be concerned that it looks as though there might be some Bronze Disease on the reverse of your coin? I don't know when the photographs were taken so I don't know if that has been attended to already. Edited December 31, 2022 by Topcat7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennos Posted December 31, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 31, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, CPK said: @Brennos is this a named denomination, by the way? Calciati doesn't give many denomination names. Mariangela Puglisi's book (La Sicilia da Dionisio I a Sesto Pompeo. Circolazione e funzione della moneta), which I believe is one of the most recent references on the sicilian bronze coinage, gives this type the denomination Hemilitra or Tetras. Edited December 31, 2022 by Brennos 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted January 1 · Supporter Author Share Posted January 1 22 hours ago, Topcat7 said: @CPK I would be concerned that it looks as though there might be some Bronze Disease on the reverse of your coin? I don't know when the photographs were taken so I don't know if that has been attended to already. No bronze disease, thankfully! Just some rock-hard deposits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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