Prieure de Sion Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 Salve! I am interested in the Caligula Province Bronzes from Carthago Nova, Spain:https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/search/browse?magistrate_id[]=800 They were probably issued by the two "duovir quinquennalis" (two magistrates for five years) CN ATEL FLAC and CN POM FLAC. Undoubtedly, these should be two persons of the Gens Flacci:https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flaccus But I can't find the two people. CN ATEL FLAC should be Gnaeus Atellus / Atellius (?) Flaccus, CN POM FLAC should be Gnaeus Pompeius Flaccus. But I just can't find any information on the net about either person - even somehow when I take similar names. But sometimes you can't see the forest for the trees. Do you know any information about these or either of these people? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted November 18, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) The British Museum lists both a moneyers. No further information. https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG206806 https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG206807 EDIT: the "Coin Collector Manual" translates the complete legend as: Under Cneius Atellius Flaccus and Cneius Pompeius Flaccus, the Decemvirs for five years of the victorious Carthago Julia Nova. Edited November 18, 2022 by shanxi 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, shanxi said: The British Museum lists both a moneyers. No further information. https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG206806 https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG206807 Yes, I have already seen the British Museum - but thank you, of course. Unfortunately, only the abbreviations of the names and no further information on either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dwarf Posted November 18, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Prieure de Sion said: But I just can't find any information on the net about either person This is a case for Roman prosopography and a visit to a reading room of a specialiced library. I doubt wether the "net" will help. Did you consult RE? https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Paulys_Realencyclopädie_der_classischen_Altertumswissenschaft Regards Klaus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prieure de Sion Posted November 19, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 19, 2022 18 hours ago, Dwarf said: This is a case for Roman prosopography and a visit to a reading room of a specialiced library. I doubt wether the "net" will help. Did you consult RE? https://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Paulys_Realencyclopädie_der_classischen_Altertumswissenschaft Regards Klaus Unfortunately, I have only the "small Pauly" at hand - and there I have everything through under Atellius Flaccus and Pompeius Flaccus. Unfortunately without success. 20 hours ago, shanxi said: The British Museum lists both a moneyers. No further information. https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG206806 https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG206807 EDIT: the "Coin Collector Manual" translates the complete legend as: Under Cneius Atellius Flaccus and Cneius Pompeius Flaccus, the Decemvirs for five years of the victorious Carthago Julia Nova. Thanks for the addendum. Then I already know the exact family gens. I wasn't sure about "POM" for example - it doesn't necessarily have to be the Pompeius gene - but it's good to know which genes it is exactly. The only thing I found a little bit is from Pompeius Flaccus from Spain: „His Hispanic origin is more a probable hypothesis than a certainty, since this personage is only known by a reference of Pliny (Natural History, 15, 91), who assures that it was he who introduced in Hispania the pistachio (Latin pistacium). According to this author, Pompeius Flaccus was stationed in the Roman province of Syria with L. Vitellius, the father of the future Emperor, during the time he was its governor between the years 35 and 37, at the end of the government of Tiberius (14-37); in Hispania he could leave some clienteles, to which Syme supposed that the Pompeius Flaccus mentioned in a text of Carthago Nova (Cartagena) could belong.“ However, I have now found some literature. I know that both names appear in this publication and the people are described. Only I must now consider whether this is worth about 65€ to me because of two names. https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.3138/9781442676756/html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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