maridvnvm Posted June 1, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 1, 2022 The FEL TEMP REPARATIO = Fallen horsemean type is relatively difficult to obtain from Trier and Amiens (Ambianum). I have been quite fortunate in recent years to obtain a few Amiens examples with my most recent arriving today. The first coins come without letters in the field behind the bust and my newest coin is one of these. Constantius II Obv:– D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Pearl diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right Rev:– FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Helmeted soldier left, shield on left arm, spearing falling horseman; shield at ground to right. Horseman turns to face the soldier, and reaches his left arm up towards him. He is bare headed Minted in Amiens (//AMB). 353 AD. Reference:- RIC VIII Amiens 46 (R) 20.28 mm, 4.98g, 180 degrees When comparing this coin with the example on Wildwinds it can be seen to be of a very different style and that is due to the Wildwinds example being an Antioch ANTheta that has been mis-attributed. From the same issues is this Constantius Gallus Obv:– DN CONSTANTI-VS NOB CAES, Bare, bust draped and cuirassed right Rev:– FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Soldier spearing fallen horseman, who is bare headed, reaching back towards soldier Minted in Amiens. (// AMB) Reference:– RIC VIII Amiens 47 (S) 3.53g. 22.15 mm. 180 degrees Then comes the issue with A behind the bust which only occurs for Constantius II D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG, Pearl diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right, A behind bust Rev:– FEL TEMP REPARATIO, Helmeted soldier left, shield on left arm, spearing falling horseman; shield at ground to right. Horseman turns to face the soldier, and reaches his left arm up towards him. He is bare headed Minted in Amiens (//AMB). 353 AD. Reference:- RIC VIII Amiens 48 (C) There is also RIC 49 (Rated R3) where the horseman wears a pointed Phrygian cap. I have yet to see one of these. 16 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted June 1, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2022 ..i have nary a fell temp fallen horsemen in the whole of my hoard...but i know @randygeki..does...(if he's been notified) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted June 1, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ominus1 said: ..i have nary a fell temp fallen horsemen in the whole of my hoard...but i know @randygeki..does...(if he's been notified) @Randygeki IS on Numis Forums. But has posted very little. Edited June 1, 2022 by Alegandron 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtisimo Posted June 1, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2022 Great additions Martin! Congrats on adding examples from these scarcer mints. My most recent example is from Heraclea... I think! 🙂 Roman Empire Constantius II AE Centenionalis, Heraclea mint, struck ca. AD 350-355 Dia.: 22.5 mm Wt.: 5.3 g Obv.: DN CONSTAN-TIVS PF AVG; Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right Rev.: FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO; Γ in left field, SMH (?) in exergue; Helmeted soldier spearing fallen horseman who is reaching back. Hair in braids, no beard. Plain shields. Ref.: RIC 82 Heraclea (?) Purchased from Minotaur Coins 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severus Alexander Posted June 1, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) You have an increasingly impressive FTR collection, Martin. I hope they fix the Wildwinds error soon! Here's a Nicomedia I couldn't resist recently at only 10 EUR or so. I love the expression on the poor horse: Edited June 1, 2022 by Severus Alexander 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted June 2, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2022 I do not have many Roman Empire Era coins... here is a well worn version... RI Julian II 360-363 CE Fallen Horseman AE3 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Julius Posted June 2, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) Here’s my two from Amiens(Ambianum). I always say that I wish I could combine the best features from each into one coin! Combine the obverse of coin 1, the reverse of coin 2, with the visible mint mark of coin 1! Edited June 2, 2022 by Orange Julius Adding flavor 11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted June 2, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2022 6 hours ago, Severus Alexander said: You have an increasingly impressive FTR collection, Martin. I hope they fix the Wildwinds error soon! Here's a Nicomedia I couldn't resist recently at only 10 EUR or so. I love the expression on the poor horse: Largemouth horse? Nice coin. 🙂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted June 2, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted June 2, 2022 RI Constantius Gallus Caesar 351-354 AE21 FEL TEMP REPARATIO soldier-spearing-fallen-horseman RIC 348 Siscia 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth77 Posted June 2, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 2, 2022 Ambianum for Constantius II FH Trier for Constantius II on improper flan FH Trier for Constantius II Galley-Phoenix 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randygeki Posted June 20, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 20, 2022 On 6/1/2022 at 9:33 AM, Alegandron said: @Randygeki IS on Numis Forums. But has posted very little. I need to start posting more 😕 Here are my last 3 FH (from 2 years ago 🙃) Great coins all! 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randygeki Posted June 20, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 20, 2022 My Amiens FH and one barb. 9 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted June 20, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) Great Fallen Horsemen, Martin (oh, and everybody else as well) Fallen Horseman, eh? CONSTANTIUS II SILVERED AE2 (Maiorina/Centenonialis) Heraclea mint, 1st Office 348-351 AD Diameter: Large size: 22 mm Weight: 5.1 grams Obverse: : D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG. Pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust to right Reverse: FEL TEMP REPARATIO, soldier standing left, knee raised, spearing fallen horseman and is reaching backwards. Left field: Star. Mintmark SMHA in exergue Reference: RIC VIII 67 Other: a great exemplar of this interesting coin, conserving full details including the 30% of the original silvering ... very strong relief Ex-stevex6 The poor lil' dude is gonna get a spear in the butt!! Edited June 20, 2022 by Steve 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth77 Posted June 20, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 20, 2022 That first Ambianum of @Randygeki is actually a chocolate biscuit dipped in milk. I read about them in RIC. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeandAcre Posted June 20, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 20, 2022 (edited) Consider the source, but I can very cheerfully second @Curtisimo and @Severus Alexander about how cool Amiens is as a late Roman mint. ...This will verge on the subversive, but especially over the late Carolingian and early Capetian periods (c. 10th-11th c.), I find Amiens, and the whole region, of compelling interest. Evidence of the cultural continuity (at least) between that and the 4th century is thick on the ground. So, Oops, here are my two deniers of Amiens. Amiens; your standard-brand immobilization of the commonest Carolingian type of Charles the Bald, the Edict of Pitres /'GDR' type, intitially issued c. 865-877. Obv. Degraded 'KAROLVS' monogram; (Very ostensibly:) +GRATIA D-I REX. Rev. Cross; [+]AMBIAN C[IVIS?]. Poey d'Avant, 6385, var. Lacking the crescent in the 1st angle of the cross, this likely predates the examples cited by Dumas (Trésor de Fécamp, a primary later 10th-c. hoard from Normandy). On the basis of, Ahem, style, it could be only as early as the mid-10th century. This is a later (Snort) development in the same, um, process. Here, the variant 'KAROLVS' monogram is distinctive enough to suggest numismatic 'authorial intent,' above and beyond the progressive illiteracy of Carolingian immobilizations all over the country during the same period. Cf. Dumas, 6579-80 and Pl. VIII, including a line drawing from Poey d'Avant with a remarkably similar monogram. ...Right, outta here. Sorry (just not enough) for crashing the party. Guess I was just having too much fun as a spectator. Edited June 21, 2022 by JeandAcre YIPE! Dumas, Not Duplessy! 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randygeki Posted June 20, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve said: Great Fallen Horsemen, Martin (oh, and everybody else as well) Fallen Horseman, eh? CONSTANTIUS II SILVERED AE2 (Maiorina/Centenonialis) Heraclea mint, 1st Office 348-351 AD Diameter: Large size: 22 mm Weight: 5.1 grams Obverse: : D N CONSTANTIVS P F AVG. Pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust to right Reverse: FEL TEMP REPARATIO, soldier standing left, knee raised, spearing fallen horseman and is reaching backwards. Left field: Star. Mintmark SMHA in exergue Reference: RIC VIII 67 Other: a great exemplar of this interesting coin, conserving full details including the 30% of the original silvering ... very strong relief Ex-stevex6 The poor lil' dude is gonna get a spear in the butt!! Love that one! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted June 20, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 20, 2022 🙃 ahaha ... did you buy that lil' devil, geki?? (great snag!) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Steve Posted June 21, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) FYI => that's a fantastic re-shoot photo, Geki (outstanding) ... now I want that fricken coin back!! arrggghh ... oooops, sorry Martin ... I didn't mean to derail your thread (again ... Sweden coin) geesh, it's only a matter of time before the guards come searching for me (sigh) Edited June 21, 2022 by Steve 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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