Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted October 22, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 22, 2022 Constantine I VIRTVS AVGG campgate 19mm 2.89g CAN YOU SPOT WHAT’S SPECIAL WITH THIS COIN ? PLEASE GIVE YOUR OPINION ! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maridvnvm Posted October 22, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) Helmeted, cuirasssed with High crested, long crest, 3 turreted open doors reverse. RIC 190 with unlisted officina? Or more accurately unlisted somewhere arounf RIC 190. All other examples of RIC 190 seem to be High Crested with 4 turrets. The other long crested examples I can find with this description have 4 turrets.... Edited October 22, 2022 by maridvnvm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted October 22, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) Open doors + Three turrets is not an official type Edit: I originally added that it's fake, but maybe not - there are a few obv/rev dies for this reverse type. Edited October 22, 2022 by Heliodromus 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted October 22, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted October 22, 2022 Congratulations Ben and Martin. It took you 5 minutes to revealed the secret ! Yes it’s a modern forgery (and for sale as it). My question: the last time I bought a campgate 10 years ago, they were about the most common and cheapest coin type to acquire. So why taking energy and time to create those counterfeits for almost nothing ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted October 22, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) So this particular specimen appears cast, and I originally thought this reverse type as a whole was fake, but here are a few more that make me wonder... Same as above Same reverse, different bust type Different officina Crispus None of these are mine. Crispus one is GB's - hpoe he doesn't mind me using it to illustrate these varieties. Edited October 22, 2022 by Heliodromus 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted October 22, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 22, 2022 So are the open door types always fakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heliodromus Posted October 22, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, Ancient Coin Hunter said: So are the open door types always fakes? No - there are genuine open door types both from Arles (multiple issues) and Rome (P-R series) with 4 turrets. Rome issued four varieties of campgates in the P-R series, not counting this "three turrets, open doors" one: 1) three turrets, closed doors 2) three turrets, no doors 3) four turrets, no doors 4) four turrets, open doors These "three turrets, open doors" ones are certainly irregular/transitional at best, but given the number of die combinations I tend to think they (as a type) are at least ancient. Complicating matters is the fact that cast copies such as the one @Ocatarinetabellatchitchixposted also exist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted October 22, 2022 · Member Share Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ancient Coin Hunter said: So are the open door types always fakes? No, here is a genuine example from Arles: Edited October 22, 2022 by Tejas 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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