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I'm sure I've got more Antiochos I bronzes, but here's the one I have photographed! I believe it's of the HGC 9, 169 type. Antioch on the Orontes, c. 281-261. 14.5mm & 4.15g... Bought it about 3 years back for 6 Euros, which seemed fair enough! Believe it not, first time I've found an opportunity to share this treasure! EDIT: So I do, examples in a couple different group lots, but not any better than the one above! Don't know Seleukid bronzes well enough to say if this Antiochos vs. one of his successors... Just a quick cell phone photo -- 13x16mm, 3.00g, from a group lot of Greek, Seleukid, and Ptolemaic AE ex-E.E. Clain-Stefanelli Collection (similar price to the one above):

Ah, a type that I seem to have... I think I actually several varieties in my "denarius pile," but only this one photographed (so far, maybe I'll go try to do some others). Looks like may RIC 362 (Antoninus)? (Top photo is when I consigned it to a new auctioneer about 10 years, but I think it was unsold...maybe I'll find it in my pile momentarily...)

The artistry varies, so the trick with these is to get one where you can really tell what you're looking at. Unfortunately I've sold both of these some years ago. Always figured I'd get another, but then suddenly they started to become harder to find (I guess when all the pre-1980s-2000 E. European stockpiles were suddenly depleted): Septimius Severus AE Assarion. Moesia Inferior, Nikopolis as Istrum. Obv: AVT CEΠT CEVHΡO. Laureate head right. Rev: NIKOΠOΛITΩN ΠΡOC IC. Ithyphallic Priapus standing left. Ref: Moushmov 987; AMNG 1380; Sear GIC 2280 Prov: Chicago, April 2014, CICF Bourse; sold shortly after on vcoins or ebay.

Interesting, thank you for sharing the video! Being an Illinois resident (but one who sadly did not go to the convention in Chicago), I'm looking forward to having another storefront to visit when I make my next numismatic trip to Chicago (and perhaps library, if she lets the public look at her books, the way HJB does!). THE COIN: Speaking of interesting overstrikes... It was the main reason I wanted this coin (it helped that it's reportedly ex-Tom Virzi Collection). The under-type (a Syracuse AE Drachm, example below) makes it looks like Apollo is wearing a helmet and the lyre frame is constructed from dolphins. Aside from the artistic/design elements created by the overstrike, I'm curious about the political/military relationship between Syracuse and the mercenaries... (Very little is given MacDonald 2009, below, or sources I found online.) Adranon Mercenaries retirement colony in the Aetna area, AE Drachm (30mm, 26.11 g), early to mid-4th century. Obv: Head of Apollo (struck over helmeted head of Athena). Rev: Lyre (struck over a star and pair of dolphins). Ref/Prov: Virzi 512 = CNS III 2 st 4/5. [Old Photo by CNG e-Auction 116 (2005), Lot 56] For comparison here's the undertype, with reverse rotated to the same dolphin orientation, from CNG Triton VIII [edited, not my coin]: THE BOOK: ...and yet another Illinoisan, David MacDonald (2009, Whitman), a prof. at IL State U in Normal, wrote this interesting volume, Overstruck Greek Coins... Looks like a used copy can be purchased for under $30. Depending on your interests, it could be very worthwhile. It briefly discusses my type below: EDIT: p.s., I'm happy to check and see if any types are in there if anyone wants to find out before buying a copy. ADDENDUM, "The Gamble": Same coin, other photos (clickable-expandable thumbnails). You'll see why I used the older CNG photo above and hope it's the more accurate one (the coin is in the mail): The coin is still in transit, and I'm especially anxious because I don't know if it looks as it did in the 2005 photo by CNG e-Auction 116, Lot 56 (or even earlier, at NAC Auction I, Lot 1137 in 1999), or the recent photo at Noble Numismatics 130, 4317 (not good). Either way, I'll be okay with it. But I'm hopeful because in all my previous purchases from Noble, the coins looked better than the photos (they're not primarily an ancient coin firm, and it's clear they don't put as much time/resources into photography as other ancient coin firms).

Not that I have one, of course... 😞

Alexander II Zabinas Tetradrachm fourrée: NEXT: Alexander NOT the great, any denomination, any period (full disclosure, I think I remember using this "next" in "the other forum," but I don't think here yet)

I guess I post this one kinduva lot ... But I love seeing the scowly Vespasian and the toning and Vesta's sheer veil whenever I get the opportunity: Roman Imperial Coinage. Vespasian (Emperor, 69-79 CE) AR Denarius (17mm, 3.50 g, 6h). Rome mint, struck July-December 71. Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M. Laureate head right. Rev: TRI POT. Vesta seated left, draped, holding simpulum. Ref: RIC II.1 46; RSC / Cohen 561. Prov: Archer M. Huntington (1870-1955) Collection; American Numismatic Society (1001.22363), et al.

Yours works! Here are just a few other types drawing from my recent attachments for which people have seriously debated which side to call the obverse, I can think of a bunch of others I don't have personally: Tarentum Diobol, ex Clain-Stefanelli Collection: NEXT: MORE TARENTUM, OR KANTHAROS, OR HERCULES KILLING LIONS

John III Ducas Vatatzes holding sword and scabbard. As CNG pictured it, this shows him on the "obverse," which is how the coin has traditionally been illustrated since the 19th century. As a technical matter, others have identified the "quadrilobe" (interlaced crosses) as the obverse, since that was clearly on the "anvil side" and John was on the "hammer side" (slightly concave / cupped inward). Empire of Nicaea, John III Ducas Vatatzes Æ Tetarteron (20mm, 3.29 g, 6h). Magnesia mint, c. 1222-1254. Ex Goodacre Collection (ill. in Goodacre's Handbook of Byzantine Coinage & two NC articles, 1931 & 1938, and possibly some much older references). NEXT: A COIN WHERE THERE'S SOME KIND OF DIFFERENCE OF OPINION, DEBATE, CONFUSION, OR ROOM FOR DISAGREEMENT ABOUT WHICH SIDE IS THE FRONT AND WHICH IS THE BACK OF THE COIN. (or, if there hasn't been yet, say why there should be!)

Lighthouse (also about as close as I'll get to the Great Pyramid at Giza): The original Rhodos coins were probably based on the Colossus of Rhodes, but all mine so far are Pseudo Rhodian... (so a second-order depiction of an ancient wonder!) For the Temple of Artemis, I've got silver coins of Ephesos depicting some of her spirit animals, bees and stags. A couple of my Ephesian Diobols: Babylon... I highly doubt there are any coins directly relevant to the Hanging Gardens, but here's an Alexander from the Babylonian mint: For Zeus at Olympia (Leochares' statue of Zeus Brontaios), I have this coin of Elis, Olympia (a closer approximation may be the Arkadian League Stater below, as these are sometimes thought to be based on the statue): I don't have a Maussolos but I have his brother Hidrieus, with whom he shared a wife, who happened to be the sister of both (and married a third brother). (EDIT: Actually, Hidrieus married their other sister, Ada, not Artemisia.) That was a funny animation! I happen to have a distinctly un-funny one for my Hidrieus:

That Judaea Capta Den. is wonderful! Really interesting style, both sides. One of the first... Judaea under the Seleukids, Hasmonean Dynasty. John Hyrkanos I (Yehohanan) Æ Prutah (16mm, 3.11 g, 1h). Struck in the name of Seleukid King Antiochos VII Jerusalem mint, 132/1 BCE (Dated SE 181). Obverse: Lily on stem with two leaves; border of dots. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EYEPΓETOY. Upright anchor; below: dated AΠP. Reference: Meshorer TJC pp. 30-31; Hendin GBC (5) 1131 & GBC (6) 6165a; SC 2123.2; HGC 9, 1103; DCA 209. Provenance: Jay Galst (1950-2020) Collection, CNG EA 510 (23 Feb 2022), Lot 261; acq. from Herb Kreindler, 1988. Notes: With Jay Galst's collection tag labeled “ANA 8” on reverse in green ink. Possibly from an ANA exhibit of Judaean coins? In 2002 he received an award for his ANA exhibit, "The Many Names of Jerusalem as Depicted on Ancient Coins." Could this coin have been part of it? Next: Judaean Coin struck AFTER 132/131 BCE...

Congratulations! I'd love to have one of those (the only Sulla portrait coin, if I remember correctly, albeit posthumous, but presumably based on contemporary portraits made available to the engraver by the family). I don't remember buying anything directly from Aegean, but I've always thought they were a good seller with good prices. For another photo of your coin, see here, Stephen Album EA 16, Lot 64 (if you have the free ACSearch account you can get the full size image, which appears to be 1000 x 453 pix): https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=9716267 I've posted some of my Sulla-related coins in previous posts: It's interesting how many elements of this one are shared with Julius Caesar's captives denarii, though they're artistically very different (head of Venus & tiny little winged Cupid withing dotted border on obverse; trophy on the reverse; also some stuff that looks like pontifical elements, and legends, which also foreshadowed other Caesar denarii). Roman Republican. L. Sulla AR Denarius (3.67g, 18mm, 12h) Military mint, 83 BCE. Obv: Head of Venus right, Cupid holding long palm. Rev: Capis and lituus between two trophies. Ref: Crawford 359/2; Cornelia 29. Prov: InAsta 84 (30 Oct 2019), 114. I guess this one was probably struck during Sulla's siege of Athens (though some have dated it to Sulla's occupation of Athens): Greek (Post-Hellenistic), Roman (Republican, Provinicial). Attica, Athens AR “New Style” Tetradrachm (29mm, 16.36 g, 12h). Struck during Roman occupation under Sulla, Proquaestor L. Licinius Lucullus, 86-84 BCE. Obverse: Head of Athena Parthenos right, wearing single-pendant earring, necklace, and triple-crested Attic helmet decorated with the foreparts of four horses above the visor, a Griffin (?) in flight rightward above the raised earpiece, and a curvilinear ornament on the bowl. Reverse: Owl standing right, head facing, on amphora; two monograms flanking; all within wreath. References: Thompson 1315 (same obv. die[?]); HGC 4, 1779. Provenance: Ex CNG Feature Auction 115, Lot 147 (17 September 2020), “From the collection of a Texas Wine Doctor”; Ex CNG Sale 51, Lot 302 (15 September 1999).

Not just double -- you get quadruple points squared and squared again for one of the coolest coins in the entire 400-year series of Roman captives" trophy tableau" coins, which started a few years earlier with Julius Caesar's (part of what makes the Brutus so cool is that is copied the JC original!) and continuing through the sons of Constantine! (You could say the Fundanius and Cloelius Quinarii were the first, but Julius Caesar and Brutus were the first to show the TWO captives which became iconic.) Julius Caesar AR Denarius, 46 BCE, military mint. Captured Gallic captives (Vercingetorix [?] and Gallia). NEXT: A LATER COIN IN THE "TROPHY CAPTIVES" TRADITION

Here's a non-Persian incuse punch (took me a minute to find one) -- a Lesbian incuse punch: (Photo credit: CNG.) Lesbos, Koinon BI 1/48 Stater (5.5mm, 0.26g), c. 525-513 BCE.Obv: Two eyes (or possibly two grains or shields?).Rev: Quadratum incusum.Ref: Waggoner-Rosen 548 (this coin illustrated). Collection Hist.: Jonathan P. Rosen [NFA Winter 1987 MBS (18 Dec 1987), 579 (part, not ill.), desc. by Lorber as “Probably a small hoard”]; William B. Porter [CNG EA 494 (23 Jun 2021), 196]. Institutional Hist.: J. Paul Getty Museum, housed c. 1983-1987, among 773 coins cataloged by Waggoner (below), 100 exhibited and 50 cataloged in Archaic Coins: An Exhibition at the J. Paul Getty Museum from the Collection of Jonathan Rosen (1983, Malibu: Getty). Publication: Waggoner-Rosen 548 in Nancy Waggoner, Early Greek Coins from the Jonathan P. Rosen Collection [ACNAC 5] (1983, NYC: ANS), p. 35 & pl. 20 (this coin illustrated); referenced in: Peter van Alfen & Jay M. Galst, Ophthalmologia Optica & Visio in Nummis (2018, NYC: ANS) p. 546 (this coin cited). Also raises the interesting question (and important transitional phase in numismatic history), when does it stop being an incuse punch? What about this archaic Hekte with a foursquare quadratum incusum (formerly Ionian, Erythrai, now reattributed to Bithynia, Herakleia) or the weird like Chicken Tetertera (and/or a Hemitetarteron) from Troas, Dardanos with the reverse punch in the form of a calf's head? When do we think of it as a reverse die rather than "just" a punch? NEXT: ARCHAIC FRACTION (any metal)

The transformation of Victory (one of Rome's most important and enduring Imperial symbols) during the early "Byzantine" period is also fascinating. We're probably all familiar with Victory's start as Nike in the Greek world: Greek (Hellenistic). Kings of Macedon, Alexander III "The Great" (336-323 BCE) AV Stater (19mm, 8.48g, ~12h). Uncertain mint (Salamis?), struck c. 325-310 BCE. Obv: Head of Athena right wearing Corinthian helmet with crest. Rev: ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΥ / ΗΔΟ. Nike standing l. holding wreath in r. hand, stylis in l. Eagle below l., monogram r. Ref: Price 797 (Uncertain Greek/Macedon); Müller 184 (Aphytis). Prov: Ex-Morton & Eden Auction 104, Lot 44 (London at Sotheby's, 14 Nov 2019) Notes: Is Victory pregnant? Video (1m 10s) about coin & imagery, incl. Nike -> Victory -> Angel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvs_GNe2LzE Less well known: Victory became an Angel. (Specifically, a male angel, though Grierson describes it as an “angel of indeterminate sex” [1999: 33].) Starting with Justin I, Victory's image was replaced on the gold Solidus. During Justinian's reign, she was almost completely removed (from the Solidus). Almost. VICTORIA didn't disappear entirely: 1. She remained on the Tremissis & Semissis for much longer; until at least the end of the 6th century and Justinian's dynasty (w/ Maurice Tiberius, e.g., SB 486; if anyone knows of later Victory appearances, please let me know). Justinian AV Tremissis (17mm, 1.45 g, 6h). Constantinople, c. 527-565 CE. Obv: D N IVSTINIANVS PP AV. Diademed, draped, and cuirassed bust right. Rev: VICTORIA AVGVSTORVM. Victory advancing right, head left, holding wreath and globus cruciger; star to right; CONOB. Ref: DOC 19; Sear Byz 145. Prov: Ex Jack A. Frazer Collection (CNG EA 455 [30 Oct 2019], 394), acquired from Harlan J. Berk Buy-Bid Sale #27 (13 Sep 1983), Lot 8. 2. Her legend - VICTORIA - remained. One interesting thing about late / Eastern Roman (i.e., Christian Rome) and "Byzantine" artistic traditions: They largely scrubbed pagan deities like Victory by the mid- to late-6th centuries, but they kept using "personifications" of cities, like Constantinopolis and Roma. (Sometimes described as "Victory as Roma" or "Victory as Constantinopolis.") Even after Victory was replaced with an Angel on the AV Solidi of Justin I, Justinian, and Justin II, the latter continued producing Solidi depicting Constantinopolis with the legend VICTORIA AVG (and vars.): "The Last Constantinopolis." Byzantine / E. Roman Empire. Justin II AV Solidus (21mm, 4.47g, 6h), Constantinople, c. 567-578.Obv: D N IVSTINVS P P AVI. Diademed, helmeted and cuirassed bust of Justin facing, holding Victory on globe in right hand & shield with horseman motif over his left shoulder.Rev: VICTORIA AVCCCH / CONOB. Constantinopolis seated facing, head turned to right, holding spear in right hand & globus cruciger in left.Ref: SB 345; DOC 4g; MIBE 5.Prov: Ex-Agora Auctions Auction 36 (Online [NYC], 14 Jul 2015), Lot 240; Ex-Spartan Numismatics. This Justin II AV Solidus is the last type to show Constantinopolis. Grierson (1999: 32) writes: “When Constantinopolis appeared for the last time, on Solidi of Justin II, she was already so unfamiliar that some users thought her to represent the goddess Venus.” 3. She had a few minor appearances on Solidi post-Justinian I, but only in a much reduced, subordinate role, standing on the globe in the hand of the Emperor on his obv. portraits. E.g., on Justin II's mourning beard Solidus, SB 344 : (NOT MY COIN: CNG 473, 385)

Great new (last week!) Victory over Eastern Captive Aurelian denarius! I love that type. This is my most recently added example, and an upgrade over my previous ones: Roman Imperial. Aurelian (Augustus, 270-275 CE) AE or Billon Denarius (19mm, 1.94g, 12h, struck in Rome, c. 275.Obv: IMP AVRELIANVS AVG. Laureate, cuirassed bust right.Rev: VICTORIA AVG. Victory advancing left, holding wreath above bound Eastern captive.Ref: RIC 73. Prov: Solidus Auktion 70 (24 Nov 2020), 261.

It's an interesting question! If you haven't seen it before, the article focuses on the period after 1092 (Alexius I's monetary reform, including Tetartera), but it helps give a sense of the issues, and it may touch on the earlier period at times. I found it very interesting and useful: P.Papadopoulou. 2010/2022. "The Big Problem of Small Change in the Byzantine World (12th and 13th centuries)," in First International Sevgi Gönül Byzantine Studies Symposium. Istanbul:‎ Koc University Press. (Symposium in 2007.) https://www.academia.edu/788213/P.Papadopoulou_The_Big_Problem_of_Small_Change_in_the_Byzantine_World_12th_and_13th_centuries_2010_

Please pardon the second consecutive post! Here's a quick group shot of my pile of Tetartera (rather, half Tetartera, I think these are usually called). Nothing too special there. Unfortunately doesn't look like any Alexius I in this group [edit: oh, bottom right -- thanks!]; mostly (or all) Manuel I and John II. I put the ones I like best up toward the top row (especially the two John II near the center, which I've always wondered if they weren't billon, but I have seen any reference to say they are). Anyway, I've always really liked this denomination, the small flat coinage of the Byzantine Empire, which was apparently always in short supply (and not well liked by the public):

That is a great set! I really love the Alexius Tetartera. Here are two "flat bronze" coins that I have down as Alexius (but I made those attributions at least 10 or maybe 20 years ago, so I wouldn't swear to their accuracy): Maybe I'll post my pile of AE Tetartera if I can get a group shot!

Here's a countermarked Tiberius Commagene "Dupondius" ex-Clain-Stefanelli Collection. The pair of countermarks is actually very interesting. Based on hoard evidence (and design elements), the scarce "bird eating berries?" (Brunk 17 = Howgego 352, "bird on branch") may be a Legionary countermark. I suspect it's actually an "eagle w/ branch in its beak, standing on fulmina," possibly connected to Trajan's Parthian War. The other countermark (right) is unpublished, as far as I know (I've found some in ACSearch records), but I suspect it's a "Capricorn-Amaltheia, with a cornucopia protruding from the body" or "Capricorn with instrument," either which could also easily be Legionary symbols. There are some characters or a monogram, but I can't decipher it. NEXT: ROMAN COIN RELATED TO LEGIONS

Congratulations on the Domitian! Not my area, but it certainly sounds like an interesting and worthwhile variant. To me, a rarity like that gains a certain value (intellectual if not commercial) by having been in the collection of a specialist who can give it some context. (Conversely, I hope my coin below doesn't lose value by being in my non-specialized collection!) For the coin below, I can confidently say I have easily the worst known specimen anywhere! (I guess I can say that about 1 or 2 others, but those are also the best known specimen.) It's an undoubtedly flawed Roman Provincial bronze from Lokri Opuntii, struck approximately 68/69 CE, temp. Galba. The type is rare as provincials go, though RPC knows of at least 6 examples in private hands, and 14 examples total. All those in private collections (including mine) were from the BCD Lokris-Phokis Sale (NAC 55), plus one more than RPC didn't catalog (BCD Lokris 467.2). (It's not uncommon to find he had acquired almost all documented specimens in private hands for types like this. I haven't seen any others, but there are probably some out there somewhere.) With one exception, all known examples are countermarked ΛO ligate (for Lokri Opuntii). But it is also one of only two known specimens with a second countermark (different pairs, so each is unique, in that sense). The bottom countermark is Howgego 620 (ΛO monogram); the top one is supposed to be helmeted head of Athena, but I can't make it out, so I'm just trusting BCD's assessment. The coin's exceptionally heavy wear is actually quite mysterious. It's very odd that one specimen would be so much more worn than all the others; none of the rest seemed to have circulated for long at all. Perhaps that's connected to the reason it has a second countermark. (The other double-marked specimen wasn't heavily worn, though.) Roman Provincial. Lokris, Lokri Opuntii AE21 (5.95g), Magistrate M. Claudius Serapion, temp. Galba, 68/69 CE. Obv: [ϹƐΡΑΠΙΩΝΟϹ]. Head of Persephone right, poppy head; two countermarks: ΛO ligate (Howgego 620) & helmeted head of Athena [?]. Rev: [ΟΠΟΥΝΤΙΩΝ ƐΠΙ ΚΛΑΥΔΙΟΥ]. Warrior holding spear & shield. Ref: BCD Lokris 157.5 = RPC I Online 1342 example 14 (cited in RPC Consolidated Supplement [2015], p. 71) = this coin. Prov: BCD Collection, NAC 55 (8 October 2010), Lot 157 (part); Dr. F Jarman Collection: Mints of the Roman Empire, Numismatik Naumann 100 (6 March 2021), 1215.

I don't think I've posted it in this thread... then again, I'm never quite sure where all I've posted my favorites... But I'll go with the original "mourning" pose denarius, ex Julius Caesar military mint c. 46 BCE: Roman Republican/Imperatorial. Julius Caesar (Dictator, 49-44 BCE). AR Denarius (3.70g, 20mm, 12h). Military mint moving with Caesar in Spain, 46-45 BCE. Obv: Head of Venus to right, wearing stephane; Cupid behind shoulder Rev: Trophy of Gallic arms, composed of helmet and cuirass, oval shield and two carnyxes. Two Gallic captives seated at base, to left, a female (Gallia) in posture of mourning, head resting in r. hand; to right, a bearded male (Vercingetorix) with hands bound behind him, looking l. CAESAR in exergue. Reference: Crawford 468/1; CRI 58; RSC 13; Sydenham 1014. Prov: Ex-Tauler y Fau Substastas Auction 70, Lot 79 (Madrid, 24 Nov 2020) [acsearch]. Video of this coin is available here. Numismatic Notes: The figures on the reverse of this coin are traditionally identified as the same as those portrayed on the obverses of the pair of Hostilius Saserna AR Denarii, c. 48 BCE, depicting Gallia (left) and Vercingetorix (right). This coin became the archetype for Roman numismatic depictions of captives for the next 400 years (gallery of selected Barbarians, Captives, Enemies). The trophy with two captives beneath was used frequently in the 3rd century (e.g., by Septimius Severus and Caracalla) and became a popular type on 4th century small bronze coinage (see, e.g., the Constantine AE3s). Even those depicting a single captive borrowed from this imagery; e.g., Judaea (under Vespasian et al.), Armenia (L. Verus et al.), and Dacia (Trajan et al.), among others, were depicted as female personifications in the same attitude of dejection/posture of mourning. NEXT: "BCE" Coinage = Barbarian, Captive, and/or Enemy

OOPS TOO LATE! Here's one of my Dacia Capta denarii (DACCAP) of Trajan: NEXT: "BCE" Coin = Barbarian, Captive, or Enemy

This Vesta is definitely not in the mood to carry anyone, she's just relaxing and collecting cabinet tone: Roman Imperial Coinage. Vespasian (Emperor, 69-79 CE) AR Denarius (17mm, 3.50 g, 6h). Rome mint, struck July-December 71. Obv: IMP CAES VESP AVG P M. Laureate head right. Rev: TRI POT. Vesta seated left, draped, holding simpulum. Ref: RIC II.1 46; RSC / Cohen 561. Prov: Archer M. Huntington (1870-1955) Collection; loaned, then bequeathed to Hispanic Society of America (HSA 1001.1.22362); housed at the American Numismatic Society (same accession number), late 1940s - c. 2012; 8 March 2012, sold at Sotheby's sealed-bid sale of all 37,895 Huntington coins; acq. by consortium, incl. Jose Vico; returned to ANS among 26,500 other Huntington coins, May 2012 - summer 2013; consigned by ANS to CNG e-Auction 397, 17 May 2017; Lampasas Collection; consigned to CNG e-Auction 487, 10 March 2021; Charles Chamberlain Collection; consigned to CNG e-Auction 509, 9 February 2022; Jackson-Jacobs Collection, present. NEXT: COLLECTION TONE (old or otherwise!)

This one isn't exactly Syrian (although today it's very close to modern Syrian and I think many/most are found there), but it's in the general theme, I hope. These used to be rare until a couple large hoards were found after 2005 (about 800 total). They were published in: Lorber, Catharine & Michaels, David. 2007. "Silver Coinage of Aegeae in the Reign of Hadrian." Quaderni Ticinesi 37 (2007, Abstract, feel contact me if anyone needs a page scan/ref. check from the hard copy); Haymann, Florian. 2014. "The Hadrianic Silver Coinage of Aegeae (Cilicia)" American Journal of Numismatics 26: pp. 143-186 + 20 plates [JSTOR]. Since it came up in another thread, Haymann (AJN, 2014) reported that these are ~50-60% silver. Cilicia, Aegeae. Hadrian AR Tetradrachm (25mm, 11.99 g, 6h), Dated year 177 of the Caesarean Era (130/1 CE). Obv: Laureate and cuirassed bust right, slight drapery. Rev: AIΓЄAIΩN ЄTOVC · ZOP · (date), eagle standing facing on harpe, head and tail right, with wings spread; below goat head right, kneeling left. Pub: F. Haymann, “Hadrianic Silver Coinage of Aegeae (Cilicia),” AJN 26 (2014), Type 14 (dies O1/R6) [sic] (this coin illustrated) = L&M 117 (this coin illustrated); Ref: Prieur 719; RPC III 3343. Prov: Ex-Mid-2005 Aegeae Hoard, Inv. # 4.3.6, cataloged by Lorber & Michaels in Quaderni Ticinesi 37 (2007, Abstract); Freeman & Sear, 2009; The Crescent Collection; CNG e-486, 332. BTW: There's a much better example for sale under $400 right now on VCoins, also a plate coin in the two studies mentioned above (it's not mine & I have no stake in it, but will be happy to point you to it if you message me; I was the underbidder on it twice, but now that I have this one, I don't think I'm going to buy it even though it's a very good deal, IMO).