expat Posted October 5, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted October 5, 2023 Got this coin yesterday. The attribution from the dealer is incorrect. Looked under the types SNG Copenhagen 383-92, but there is no mention of these two monograms. Where should I be looking, this is only my 5th Greek coin so am very inexperienced. Any help will be very appreciated. Dealers description; PERGAMON (Mysia) AE16. Obverse: Head of Athena right, wearing helmet decorated with 8 pointed star. Reverse: AΘHNAΣ / NIKHΦOPOY. Owl standing facing on palm frond right, with wings spread. Monograms ΓΑ and ΑΡ either sides of owl in fields. SNG Copenhagen 383-92. Pergamon mint, ca. 150-100 BC. 2,9 g - 16 mm 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor kirispupis Posted October 5, 2023 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted October 5, 2023 The city is correct and the year is in the range (I see more often 200-133 BCE). For the attribution, the closest I see is this one. They attributed it to SNG BN 1910-2 var, but I don't have that reference to verify it. Naumann uses a similar attribution for this one. Interestingly, I see the ΓΑ monogram used several times with others and the ΑΡ monogram also used with others. Therefore, they must have meant different things. I wonder if there's a study with their correlation. It may be possible to order the coins with this data. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted October 5, 2023 · Supporter Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, kirispupis said: The city is correct and the year is in the range (I see more often 200-133 BCE). For the attribution, the closest I see is this one. They attributed it to SNG BN 1910-2 var, but I don't have that reference to verify it. Naumann uses a similar attribution for this one. Interestingly, I see the ΓΑ monogram used several times with others and the ΑΡ monogram also used with others. Therefore, they must have meant different things. I wonder if there's a study with their correlation. It may be possible to order the coins with this data. Very similar. I just found what i think is a misattributed coin in Wildwinds that looks like my coins momograms. The size of my coin is 17.5mm and the weight is 2.93g. Wildwinds SNG COP 384 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted October 5, 2023 · Patron Share Posted October 5, 2023 Mine is very similar -- different monograms, of course. Mysia, Pergamon, 200-133 BC. Bronze Æ 15.7 mm, 3.55 g, 12 h. Obv: Head of Athena right, wearing crested helmet ornamented with star. Rev: AΘΗ-ΝΑΣ ΝΙΚΗΦΟΡΟΥ, owl standing facing on palm, with wings spread,TK monogram left and ΠΛ right. Refs: SNG Copenhagen 388 (same); c.f. SNG von Aulock 1375-6, BMC 197-199, SNG France 1920-2, SNG BN 1913-6 (various monograms). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
expat Posted October 5, 2023 · Supporter Author Share Posted October 5, 2023 @kirispupis @Roman Collector Just had confirmation from Dane at Wildwinds, that the version with the monograms on my issue is Leipzig 1102-1103. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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