Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted March 11, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 11, 2023 Sear 378 (single bust, Antioch) is a type that I've always wanted, the only single bust 40 nummia type of Justin II, if I'm not mistaken (unless there's an even more obscure provincial issue). After listening to to the Totalus Rankium episode regarding Justin II, I really want this type! I really don't like the 2 figures type. Justin decked the patriarch and barked like a dog! His mental illness made him 10/10 interesting! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewomack Posted March 11, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted March 11, 2023 Everything that I've seen points to the type being not excessively rare, but possibly above average rarity. The prices quoted in Sear (which I only use as a rough guide to relative rarity) don't make me think that it's extremely difficult to obtain. It was also minted for 2 years with 4 officinae. Here's an auction for a VF example that sold for $195: https://www.cgcoins.com/products/565-ngc-vf-justin-ii-byzantine-follis-antioch-mint-pedigree-18121801c?variant=22313683517498 An old Vcoins listing shows this rather worn example selling for around $50: https://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/numiscorner/239/product/coin_justin_ii_follis_566567_antioch__copper_sear378/1207142/Default.aspx Given all of that, I also can't say that I've seen many (or any) for sale in my searches over the past year, so perhaps it's "under-catalogued?" I agree that the more typically seen two-figured type doesn't have the appeal of the Justinian face-on style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted March 11, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 I've never seen one in person (that I can recall) and I've been collecting since 1989. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valentinian Posted March 11, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 11, 2023 I have one that is 2/3 nice and 1/3 flat: 33 mm. 19.35 grams. Sear 378. DOC (143) [The parentheses mean it was not in DO at the time. Also, officina B not listed there] MIBEC Justin II, 55b. (several are cited, including officinae A, B, and Γ). 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValiantKnight Posted March 11, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Nerosmyfavorite68 said: Justin decked the patriarch and barked like a dog! His mental illness made him 10/10 interesting! I’ll bet it wasn’t so entertaining for Justin himself, or for anyone else that suffers with something similar 😒 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O-Towner Posted March 12, 2023 · Member Share Posted March 12, 2023 Very nice and tough to find type @Valentinian. Here's my matching decanummium (Sear 382) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted March 12, 2023 · Member Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 I might have to settle for a fractional denomination until 378 turns up. The folks at Totalus Rankium found Justin II to be delightful and he scored surprisingly high, only about 15 points short of Nicephorus II. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voulgaroktonou Posted April 23, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 23, 2023 Antioch issued in years 1 and 2 of Justin II an anomalous copper series, the obverse of which is modelled upon that of the solidi, i. e., one having a bust of the emperor holding a victory upon a globe instead of the more frequent enthroned figures. (An aside to this is that my wife, trained in Classical Greek art, sees the enthroned pair as space aliens, and considers this evidence that extra terrestrials interbred with humans in the eastern Mediterranean in late antiquity, but that is merely an aside, and I am not entirely won over to it.) N. B. Photos are not to scale: I have managed to make the half folles larger than the folles! Please see descriptions of individual coins for accurate size. Top row: 1. Solidus. Constantinople, 565-78. 4.40 gr. 21 mm. 6 h. Sear 345; H. 5; DO 4a. 2. Follis. Antioch, 565-6. Year 1, officina 3. 18.15 gr. 34 mm. 5 h. Sear 378; H. 55b. An unusual feature of this coin is that the bust is bearded. Ex Protonotarios collection. 3. Follis. Antioch, 566-7. Year 2, officina 3. 17.01 gr. 33 mm. 5 h. Sear 378; H. 55b. Middle Row: 4. Half Follis. Antioch, 565-6. Year 1. 8.27 gr. 29 mm. 11 h. Sear 380; H. 58a. 5. Half Follis. Antioch, 565-6. Year 1. 10.25 gr. 27 mm. 5 h. Sear 380; H. 58c. 6. Half Follis. Antioch, 566-7. Year 2. 8.19 gr. 28 mm. 11 h. Sear 380; H. 58a. Bottom Row: 7. Quarter Follis. Antioch, 565-6. Year 1. 4.72 gr. 22 mm. 5 h. Sear 382; H. 62; DO 147b. 8. Quarter Follis. Antioch, 566-7. Year 2. 2.68 gr. 19 mm. 4 h. Sear 382; H. 62. Hahn notes that the appearance of the stars accompanying the years on coins 2,3, 5, 7, 8 below alludes to the consulate of 566. Only the folles bear officina numbers. I have not attempted to reproduce the eccentricities of the obverse inscription of the copper coins; it is enough to state that they continue the tortured ineptitude of the final years of Justinian’s Antiochene coppers. 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O-Towner Posted April 24, 2023 · Member Share Posted April 24, 2023 A very Impressive collection. Wow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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