antwerpen2306 Posted December 26, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 26, 2022 About one third of my Roman Republican coins are of the type Dioscuri, it is the type I prefer. First a denarius : Crawford 53/2 : after 211 BC,Mint : Rome, 18 mm, 3.95 gr, 12h. The value is indicated by X = 10 asses. Number of dies : 100/125. The quinarius has the same images, the value is a half denarius : V = 5 asses. Number of dies : 100/125. Crawford 44/6, 16.5 mm, 1.98 gr, 6 h, Mint : Rome, from 211 BC The sestestius is also the same, but the value is indicated by IIS : 2 1/2 as Crawford 44/7, 11 mm, 1.1 gr, 9 h, Rome, 211 BC, number os dies : 11/125. Please, show your Dioscuri 22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted December 26, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted December 26, 2022 sorry, I forgot to show the sestertius. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted December 26, 2022 · Patron Share Posted December 26, 2022 What a fun reverse type to study in depth, @antwerpen2306! Those are some attractive coins in your collection. This is my only coin with this reverse design. L. Cupiennius, 147 BC. Roman Republican AR denarius, 3.89 g, 17.7 mm, 3 h. Rome, 147 BC. Obv: Helmeted head of Roma, right; cornucopiae behind; denominational mark X before. Rev: Dioscuri galloping right; L·CVP (VP ligatured) below; ROMA in exergue. Refs: Crawford (RRC) 218/1; RSC Cupiennia 1; Sydenham (CRR) 404; RCV 94. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted December 26, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2022 A different depiction C. MALLEOLUS, A. ALBINUS SP. F. and L. CAECILIUS METELLUS. Denarius (Late 90s BC). Rome. Obv: ROMA, Laureate head of Apollo right; behind star; X (mark of value) below chin. Rev: A ALBINVS S F, The Dioscuri standing left, each holding spear and wearing pilos surmounted by star, watering horses; crescent in left field. Ag, 3.62g, 18mm Ref.: Crawford 335/10a, RSC Postumia 5a 13 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulla80 Posted December 26, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) These are wonderful coins - I do not yet have a sestertius - here's a quinarius: Roman Republican, Anonymous. 211-208 BC. AR Quinarius (15mm, 2.21 g, 3h). Rome mint. Helmeted head of Roma right; V (mark of value) behind / The Dioscuri, each holding spear, on horseback right. Crawford 44/6; King 1; Sydenham 169; RSC 3. VF, find patina, flan crack at 6 o'clock. From the Dr. Lawrence D. Sporty Collection. Ex Classical Numismatic Group Electronic Auction 258 (22 June 2011), lot 280. Dr. Sporty is a psychiatrist in Santa Ana, California. (as an interesting aside - this coin shows the inherent risk in investing in ancient coins: 2011 it sold for $240, in 2017 it sold for $170; in 2019 it sold for $111) Edited December 26, 2022 by Sulla80 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted December 26, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted December 26, 2022 @Roman CollectorA few years ago, I ve decided to limit my collection of ancient coins to Greek coins from Italy ans Sicily and the Roman Republic. I always loved these Dioscuri-coins, so this is my first objective and now about 1/3 is Dioscuri. You have there a nice Cupiennius'coin, I have it twice, the second was to cheap to not buy, I will show them later. @shanxia coin I do not have yet, but I hope later. Problem with this number is that there are a lot of denarii, I have 335/1b.It is not a common one with 68 and 85 dies for 2 varieties. @Sulla80wonderful quinarius, I have this coin 2 times, maybe I put them together tomorrow to compare the style, what do you think ? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulla80 Posted December 26, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, antwerpen2306 said: @Sulla80wonderful quinarius, I have this coin 2 times, maybe I put them together tomorrow to compare the style, what do you think ? I look forward to seeing them! I like these early depictions of Roma, although my collection leans more 1st century BC. My notes on this coin include the following: https://www.sullacoins.com/post/quinarius-from-a-time-of-massive-recoinage Edited December 27, 2022 by Sulla80 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted December 26, 2022 · Patron Share Posted December 26, 2022 ...every collection should have a coin or two of the Dioscuri ... @DonnaML has some really kool ones...and ole @Alegandron was my mentor on mine wif the Doggo type...^^ Roman Republic 146BC, C. Antestius Helmeted Roma right obverse with dog control mark behind with bankers marks, Dioscuri twins reverse, 18mm, 3.82gms 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted December 26, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2022 5 hours ago, antwerpen2306 said: Please, show your Dioscuri You asked 😉 Sestertius : Denarius : Q 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted December 26, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted December 26, 2022 Dioscuri? -- I love those guys! I have more than you can shake a stick at! A couple from my top Roman Republicans list for this year: L. Memmius: Mn. Fonteius: Others: C. Antestius: C. Servilius: C. Fonteius: Mn. Cordius Rufus: Also, Mn. Fonteius C.f, caps with stars representing Dioscuri: Finally, a Faustina II sestertius with a reverse depicting Felicitas (or Faustina as Fecunditas) standing left, between four girls (two standing at each side), and holding two infants in her arms, each with a star over its head (representing the Dioscuri); the two infants are Marcus Aurelius's and Faustina II’s twin sons b. 31 Aug 161 AD: Titus Aurelius Fulvus Antoninus (the older twin, d. 165 AD) and Commodus, the ninth and tenth children of the royal couple. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapphnwn Posted December 26, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 26, 2022 This is possibly one of the earlier example. Anonymous Ar Denarius Rome 214-213 BC Obv Helmeted head of Roma right Rv Dioscuri on horseback charging right with couched lances. Crawford 44/5 4.82 grms 21 mm Photo by W. Hansen This coin replaced the badly debased and discredited Quadrigatus. 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted December 27, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted December 27, 2022 42 minutes ago, kapphnwn said: Anonymous Ar Denarius Rome 214-213 BC Is it no longer believed that the denarius began in 211? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 One of my favorites, hard to find. RR Anon 210 BCE AE 23 Quincunx 6.96g Apollo P behind Dioscuri Luceria 5 pellets Cr 99-4 Syd 309 S 910 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 RR AE Aes Grave Sextans 270 BCE 37mm 55.28g Dioscuri R and L 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 8 hours ago, ominus1 said: ...every collection should have a coin or two of the Dioscuri ... @DonnaML has some really kool ones...and ole @Alegandron was my mentor on mine wif the Doggo type...^^ Roman Republic 146BC, C. Antestius Helmeted Roma right obverse with dog control mark behind with bankers marks, Dioscuri twins reverse, 18mm, 3.82gms And yours is one of my favorites! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted December 27, 2022 · Patron Share Posted December 27, 2022 ...when it came to the Seleucids on the Dioscuri, it was hats off 😛 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPK Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 12 hours ago, Roman Collector said: What a fun reverse type to study in depth, @antwerpen2306! Those are some attractive coins in your collection. This is my only coin with this reverse design. L. Cupiennius, 147 BC. Roman Republican AR denarius, 3.89 g, 17.7 mm, 3 h. Rome, 147 BC. Obv: Helmeted head of Roma, right; cornucopiae behind; denominational mark X before. Rev: Dioscuri galloping right; L·CVP (VP ligatured) below; ROMA in exergue. Refs: Crawford (RRC) 218/1; RSC Cupiennia 1; Sydenham (CRR) 404; RCV 94. You and me both! 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 RR Anon AR denarius Roma 211-206 BCE ROMA incus Dioscuri single horn-helmet Sear-- Craw 68-1b SICILY ISSUE 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 Roman R epublicAR SestertiusAfter 211 BCE12mm 1.0gRome mintRoma r IIS (2 As and a Semis) - When a Sestertius was 1/4 Denarius and 10 Asses = a Denarius.Dioscuri riding stars above, in ex ROMASear 46 Craw 44-7 RSC 4 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 Roman Republic Anon after 211 BCE AR Quinarius 2.12g Helmeted hd Roma - Dioscuri riding Craw 68-2b RSC 3 ex Clain-Stefanelli 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 RR Anon AR Quinarius 211-210 BCE 16mm 2.14g SE Italia mint Roma V ROMA Dioscuri H Cr 85-1a SYD 174 RSC33b ex RBW 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted December 27, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2022 Another variation: Denarius, 136 BC, Rome Obv: TRIO, Helmeted head of Roma right; X (mark of value) below chin. Rev: CN LVCR / ROMA, The Dioscuri galloping right. Ag, 17.4x19.6mm, 3.87g Ref.: Crawford 237/1a. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted December 27, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted December 27, 2022 Thanks for the nice pictures. I use often this guide https://stevebrinkman.ancients.info/anonymous/. It is impossible to see the details on the photos in Crawfords book. Here a very good description is given. As promised, the 3 quinarii to compare. mine Sulla80 mine I bought this second one a few ago in Italy from a local for 20 €. The first I bought by Roma Numismatics for a lot more. My next denarius is Crawford 75/1b with a branch. there are 4 varieties for this number and only some small details differ. There are 20/25dies for all this varieties. The mint is maybe in Sicily. The period 209/208 BC. The next one also is maybe minted in Sicily in 209/208 BC. It is Crawford 79/1 with a wheel on the reverse. number of dies : 40/50. It is a serrate. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor jdmKY Posted December 27, 2022 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted December 27, 2022 I’ve got a couple of Imperatorial Dioscuri Mn Cordius Rufus, 46 BC L Servius Rufus, 43 BC 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJBrinkman Posted December 27, 2022 · Member Share Posted December 27, 2022 On 12/26/2022 at 8:22 AM, antwerpen2306 said: About one third of my Roman Republican coins are of the type Dioscuri, it is the type I prefer. The early denarii and its fractions with the dioscuri on the reverse have been my passion for a number of years. On 12/26/2022 at 8:22 AM, antwerpen2306 said: The quinarius has the same images, the value is a half denarius : V = 5 asses. Number of dies : 100/125. Crawford 44/6, 16.5 mm, 1.98 gr, 6 h, Mint : Rome, from 211 BC I think I would classify this very nice quinarius as Crawford 47/1 based on the visor style and especially the overall reverse style. Probably contemporary with Cr. 44/6 but from a different mint. Crawford's plate examples of this are of rather aberant variations. For some reason I can't post an image of my 47/1 so will post this and try in a subsequent post. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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