antwerpen2306 Posted May 30, 2022 · Member Share Posted May 30, 2022 The first denarius is Crawford 199/1a. This is the coin, known by Crawford. Interesting is here the inscription on the reverse : SAR under the two horses, the S beginning next the leg. The second denarius is the same reference number, but the reverse is different : the inscription SAR is more at right and before there is a C partially erased. The moneyer is perhaps Sextus Atilius Saranus (Serranus), consul in BC 136. Probably a mistake of a careful engraver who was used to engrave C.SCR, as the third denarius, Crawford 201/1. The moneyer here is C. Scribonius. From this second denarius are only 5 examples known, four cited in the work of Pierlugi Debernardi, 'Varianti di conio utili per la catalogazione dei denari repubblicani' and all four from the same die, this coin = d item. This variant is unknown to Crawford, because not in museum collections of hoards. He dates the Atilius coin in BC 155 and the Scribonius coin a year later, in BC 154. Maybe we have to change the date of the two coins. albert ps : I had problems with the images, is there a manual ? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alegandron Posted May 30, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted May 30, 2022 Wow, @antwerpen2306, thanks for the Posting! I really enjoy the detail and the great coins. VERY nice finds! Thank you for the writeup. I have none of the wonderful Denarii that you posted! I do not have a Denarius of Sextus Atilius Saranus, however, I think I have one of his earlier relatives... Roman Republic, c. 148 BC, bronze as of M.ATILI SARAN, 31 mm, 23.95 grams. Obverse: Laureate bust of Janus. Reverse: ROMA|I|M.ATILI, prow r. Reference: Crawford 214/2a 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted May 30, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 very nice as, the moneyer is perhaps a son of the moneyer of my coins, albert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carthago Posted June 1, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) Here is my 199/1a Atilius Saranus, 155, AR Denarius (3.97g, 18.3mm, 12h). Helmeted head of Roma r.; behind X. Rev. Victory in prancing biga r.; below,(C) SAR (A with horizontal bar) and ROMA in tablet. Babelon Atilia 1var. Sydenham 377 var. Crawford 199/1a var. Misengraved C in moneyer's name on reverse. Provenance: Privately Purchased from ArtAncient July 13, 2018 while on a bullet train from Sendai to Tokyo. According to ArtAncient, "Ex private collection of coll. W.v.H., 1980-1990, Netherlands"; Peus Auction 284, December 9, 1974 Edited June 1, 2022 by Carthago 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveJBrinkman Posted June 1, 2022 · Member Share Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) Fabulous. I was totally unaware of this obscure linkage between the two moneyers. I don't have an example of the SAR issue but I do have a C.Scribonius RRC201. Edited June 2, 2022 by SteveJBrinkman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antwerpen2306 Posted June 6, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted June 6, 2022 Carthago, I think you have the 5° known coin of this rare denarius. IMO the two coins have the same die. I am happy for you, a beautiful and rare coin. Congratulations. albert 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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