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Pretty sure I have a Galerius Follis here from Heraclea


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I got this given to me recently, it was in worse condition but I think I did an OK job of conserving it some. I can't find the exact coin anywhere but from what I've learned here, I might be on the right track with identifying it.

It is about the size of a US Quarter and bronze.coin.jpg.ceaee09d6b3bb7b1a8f8bc5f7b656fce.jpg

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  • thenickelguy changed the title to Pretty sure I have a Maximinus Follis here from Heraclea
  • thenickelguy changed the title to Pretty sure I have a Galerius Follis here from Heraclea

Ah ha! It is Galerius not Maximinus

Thank you shanxi ! :classic_biggrin: Reading about him now.

Heraclea
RIC VI 37a,A

Galerius AE Follis. AD 308-309.

Obverse IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS PF AVG, laureate head right Reverse GENIO IMPERATORIS, Genius standing left pouring liquid from patera and holding cornucopaie. Mintmark dot HTA dot.

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For comparison here is an example of a Maximianus follis struck at the same mint & workshop as your coin that I won at AMCC 3.

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Maximianus, 1st Reign (AD 285-305). Billon Follis: Issued 297/8, Heraclea Mint, 10.05 gm, 28 mm, 12 h. Ex Caesar Augustus Collection, acquired from Economopoulos Numismatics.

 

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2 hours ago, Al Kowsky said:

For comparison here is an example of a Maximianus follis struck at the same mint & workshop as your coin that I won at AMCC 3.

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Maximianus, 1st Reign (AD 285-305). Billon Follis: Issued 297/8, Heraclea Mint, 10.05 gm, 28 mm, 12 h. Ex Caesar Augustus Collection, acquired from Economopoulos Numismatics.

 

...which you can only tell apart by the legend (well, and the reverse). IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS PF AVG for Galerius, IMP C MA MAXIMIANVS PF AVG for Maximian. Not that all their coins are so easily distinguished.

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23 hours ago, John Conduitt said:

Not that all their coins are so easily distinguished.

True!  I have a web page on distinguishing Maximian, Galerius, and Maximinus II:
http://augustuscoins.com/ed/tetrarchy/distinguishing.html

There are many examples of pairs of coins that have very similar legends but belong to different emperors. For example, this is one of the pairs considered:

MaximinusIIGENIOAVGVSTIALE.jpeg.ceac9b84d14f0ccec1b9c150c9184d49.jpegGaleriusGENIOIMPERATORISALE.jpeg.f81c61f94ecf6897055a54b8b44c1691.jpeg

Take a look at that page to see who they are. Again, it is
http://augustuscoins.com/ed/tetrarchy/distinguishing.html
 

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Here's one from Heraclea.

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Galerius as Augustus, A.D. 305-311.
Roman AE follis, 26.0 mm, 7.73 g, 12 h.
Heraclea mint, AD 310-311.
Obv: IMP C GAL VAL MAXIMIANVS P F AVG, laureate head right.
Rev: GENIO IMPERATORIS, Genius standing left, holding patera and cornucopia; */HTE
Refs: RIC 48a; RCV 14514; Cohen 48.

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On 9/10/2022 at 9:45 AM, thenickelguy said:

point out which one I actually have shown in the first post

You have it correct. The "GAL" is there with a coin that has the second "A" is "MAXIMIANVS". As you have it now in the title, that makes it Galerius. 

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On 9/10/2022 at 12:27 PM, Valentinian said:

True!  I have a web page on distinguishing Maximian, Galerius, and Maximinus II:
http://augustuscoins.com/ed/tetrarchy/distinguishing.html

As do I.  Posted in 1998, I was dumb enough to believe it might help people learn the tricks of ID but there are still people who have this issue (often for failure to read every letter).  

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/max.html

 

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