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  1. That is a great type made after the battle of Ipsus utilizing those elephants. Apamea was certainly the hub for the elephantarchs. All of these pieces tie together nicely. 

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    Seleucus I
    Apamea on the Axios
    300 to 281 BC
    Obvs: Elephant right, dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣIΛIEΩΣ ΣEΛEYKOY, bridled & horned horse head left. Horizontal anchor below.
    AE 19x20mm, 8.57g
    SC 35; HGC 9, 79(R1)

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  2. Maybe some of you knew, but I had no idea Dionysus was associated with a turban. My latest came with a bit of a surprise. After doing some research, I found every example of this type listed was using an old attribution. The coin is from the reign of Seleucus I. And until fairly recently the attribution was changed upon finding an excellent example of the type. 

    The old attribution was male figure seated on rock. Pretty plain description, but safe as no one concretely knew who it was. Then came this amazing example from the collection of Petr Vesely.

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    Which shows a much clearer obverse and what appears to be a turban on his head. Some sleuthing from Lossif and Lorber were able to identify the man as Dionysus. Apparently he is credited with the conquest of India. Seleucus being a general of Alexander, this makes sense. Also depicted is an elephant, which he recieved around 500 of them from Chandragupta Maurya. This would make him the patron of the Seleucid elephant corps. The new attribution also changed the mint from Antioch on the Orontes to Apamea. 

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    From Wikipedia 

    Black-figure skyphos. Dionysus with a turban among female musicians. Ritsona, 520-500 BC. Archaeological Museum of Thebes.

    My win with some over zealous cleaning on the obverse. 

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    Seleucus I Nicator
    Apamea
    300 to 281 BC
    Obvs:Turbaned bearded Dionysus seated left on rock holding ancus (elephant goad) in hand. Dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣIΛIEΩΣ above ΣEΛEYKOY below, horned elephant head right. Ξ in exergue, dotted border.
    AE 17x18mm, 6.21g
    SC C25; HGC 9, 78(R2)

    Feel free to post reattributed coins or something related. 

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  3. That's a nice example. Definitely in the wrong category, good find.

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    Mint: Trebizond
    1446 to 1458 AD
    AR Asper
    Obvs: Λ in circle. St. Eugene on horseback right nimbate, holding cross-scepter. In upper field right ИH.
    Revs: John on horseback right wearing stemma with pendilia and loros, holding trefoil scepter. Trefoil beneath horse. B to right of horse.
    13x14mm, 0.54g
    Sear 2642; Retowski 2

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  4. ri230.jpg.9600997ecc825373fa1995e7ce44b45c.jpgCivic issue of Nicomedia

    Nicomedia mint
    Obvs: DEAE SANC CERERI, veiled and draped bust of Ceres left, holding grain ear and poppy in raised right hand.
    Revs: GEN CIVI T NICOM, Fortuna Redux standing facing, head left, holding in right hand rudder set on ground and cradling cornucopia in left arm; OPA.
    AE 15x16mm, 1.46g
    Ref: Vagi 2958; Van Heesch 1

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  5. I apologize for not writing sooner, I don't have as much time to spend on this forum as I used to. Regarding the control marks if symbols were used, such as a star, I excluded it as a possibility post 310, to follow a pattern of the mint. I can re examine these controls to see if there is more to gleam there. I had to choose a cut off date somewhere. If a future hoard is found, that may give a more precise date, but that is only part of the mystery. For me the purpose of these needed more investigation. I will make a concerted effort to publish in '24. At which time other authors will be able to give criticism or confirmation of my theories. 

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  6. On 1/15/2024 at 1:59 PM, DonnaML said:

    However, the theory appears to rest primarily on the assertion that the mere placement of the Delta and Epsilon for Officina 9 across the reverse fields for the Jupiter/Victory type (Series II), rather than one above the other in the reverse right field as on the Tyche/Apollo type (Series I), proves that Series II was minted in AD 300 rather than in 312.

    Time sure flies, a few years since I wrote about that. My considerations for the year 300 were based on 3 factors. The orientation of the officina, Diocletian's ideology, and the need for such a coin to be struck. Based on the orientation, I surmised a possible date range of 299 to 310 to match other coins with that orientation. Being Diocletian's reign was also during this period and his affinity with Jupiter, as witnessed on other coins with his name, made another connection. Thirdly the Olympics occurred 3 times during those years with 300 the only one he attended while emperor. Could 312 be the year "series II" were minted? Possibly of course, but my approach was to eliminate possibilities with evidence at hand. I spent about a year reading about that period and examining as many examples as I could find before coming to a conclusion. All of which can be found in the footnotes. 

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  7. That is what I have done with Seleucids. There around 2000 entries, I stopped when my 2nd child was born but I will pick it up again. How do you plan to access the data? SQL commands are very useful and not very complex. I assume you want to search queries like all coins minted in *..... In that case a relational database is the way to go. John is right, importing the data will be a large effort.

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  8. Neat animation!

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    Antiochus VI
    Mint: Antioch
    143/142 BC
    Obvs: No inscription. Antiochus radiate head right,
    within dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EΠIФANOYΣ
    ΔIONYΣOY, Elephant walking left. Cornucopia behind, ΣTA
    AE Serrate 22x23mm, 8.45g
    SC 2006a; HGC 9, 1043(C)

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    Antiochus VI
    Mint: Uncertain mint, probably in Northern Syria
    Denomination C
    144 to 142 BC
    Obvs: Forepart of panther right. Dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EΠIФANOYΣ ΔIONYΣOY, in four lines within ivy wreath.
    AE 17x18mm, 4.20g
    SC 2019; HGC 9, 1050(R3)

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    Tryphon, Diodotus
    Mint: Antioch
    142 to 138 BC
    Obvs: Head of Tryphon right diademed.
    Revs: BAΣΙΛEΩΣ TPYФΩNOΣ AYTOKPATOPOΣ, Spiked Macedonian helmet.
    AE 18mm, 4.9g
    Ref: SC 2034.1; HGC 9, 1061(S)
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    Demetrios II, first reign
    Mint: Probably Seleucia in Pieria
    145 to 143 BC
    Obvs: Diademed head of Demetrios II right within dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣΙΛEΩΣ ΔHMHTPIOY in two lines on right, NIKATOPEΣ on left. Anchor flukes upward, rose, flower, or lily lower left.
    AR Drachm 15mm, 4.02g
    Ref: SC 1927.1; HGC 9, 982(R2)

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    Antiochus VII
    Mint: Antioch
    Year 174, 139 to 138 BC
    Obvs: Prow right surmounted by pilei of Dioscuri, dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY EYEPГETOY, Trident ornamented with dolphins facing downward on each side. Δo P flanking trident.
    AE 22mm, 11.2g.
    Ref: SC -; HGC 9, -
    Note: Unpublished with date Δo P instead of Δ oP; lack of symbols or controls.

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  9. A lot of good looking coins in this post. I don't have a count of total Seleucids, but I managed to obtain 32 different rulers and coins from 37 mints. @Sulla80 that's one of the nicest obverses for a Tryphon I've seen. My latest. Need to make my own photo, not as rough in hand.

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    Antiochos IX Eusebes Philopator. Uncertain mint 121, probably in Syria. 96-95 BC. Radiate and beardless head to right / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ ΦΙΛΟΠΑΤΟΡΟΣ, Athena standing facing, head to left, holding long palm and grounded shield and spear; H in inner left field, all within wreath. SC 2377; HGC 9, 1259

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    Romanus I
    931 to 945 AD
    Mint: Constantinople
    AR Miliaresion
    Obvs: IhSЧS XRIStЧS nICA, Cross potent on three steps with cross beneath. At center oval medallion of Romanus, RW left and MA right.
    Revs: +ROMANO CONSTANt StЄFAnOS CЄCONSTA ЄnWbR in five lines.
    23mm, 2.85g
    Ref: Sear 1755

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  11. We can only date the Antioch issues (including SMA), the other 2 mints are of unknown date. I attributed both Antioch issues to the Olympics, Jupiter to 300 and Tyche to 312. Still awaiting publication however. Nicomedia is really an oddball. I'm still working on it as well as the Alexandrian issues. BTW the bottom left coin on your infografic is mine.

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  12. I think the problem is there is no consensus on what these represent. Too many copy paste listings attributing these to persecution of Christians. While I agree these are not festival of Isis issues (particularly Antioch), I've never found any link to persecution of Christians. Apart from pagan deities, I'm not sure Antioch, Nicomedia, Alexandria and related to each other.

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  13. Officially they are called serrate. Your probably best off finding the type you want. They started under Seleucus IV and the last was by Alexander II, minted by about a half dozen mints but must were made in Antioch or Ake Ptolemais. Antiochus VI are probably the most abundant. I estimate around 34 different types exist minted in a span of only 47 years.

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    Antiochus son of Seleucus IV
    Mint: Antioch on the Orontes
    Denomination C
    September/November 175 BC
    Obvs: Veiled diademed head of Laodice IV right. Dotted border.
    Revs: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY, elephant head left. Tripod outer right, control mark AT in exergue. Dotted border.
    AE serrate 17mm, 5.04g
    Ref: cf. SC 1371; HGC 9, 612(R2) control mark not listed
    Note: Unpublished

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  14. On 8/27/2023 at 5:23 PM, Topcat7 said:

    I just found a quarter siliqua in my Byzantine collection.

    Barbaric coinage imitating Imperial issues.

    The Gepids. Uncertain ruler. In the name of Anastasius, 491-518 AD.

    Quarter Siliqua, c.518-540 AD. AR7mm., 1.05gm.

    Obv: D N ANAST-ASIVS P P V Diademed and draped bust.

    Rev: VICTORIA AVGGG around SR(A)M in open frame. In ex. CONO(R)

    Theoderic King of the Gepides

    Ref: MIB 1

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