Ryro Posted December 21, 2024 · Supporter Posted December 21, 2024 Herakles did awful, unforgivable things when intoxicated. As cool, pretty, and fun a drunk as half brother Dionysus was when drinking, Herakles wasn't. (THE DRINKING CONTEST OF HERACLES & DIONYSUS) Killing his wife, his kids, friends, centaurs, villages etc. Being around Herk while imbibing would make your already inflated beyond reason Healthcare premiums be enough to kill you instead of the square shaped man. But on my long sought after example he and those satyrs seem to be having a pretty good time: Troas, Alexandria Troas. Pseudo-autonomous, time of Gallienus, c. AD 253-268. AE. 5.62 g. 22.16 mm. Obv: CO ALEX TR. Draped bust of Tyche, right; behind her, vexillum inscribed CO AV. Rev: COL AL, TROAD. Drunken Hercules stumbling right, being held up by satyr standing behind him; to either side, satyr standing in support. Ref: RPC 500; Bellinger A485. Very Fine. This reverse type is seemingly more scarce on the civic coinage of Alexandria Troas than it is on the imperial issues. Peter Paul Rubens masterpiece of drunken masculinity shows the satyr happy to help hold up his friend during a drunken bender. Juxtaposed with Rubens doughy women of course. Not so suttle angel vs devil iconography. Drunken Hercules, Pan and Satyr (2nd cent. A.D.) National Archaeological Museum of Athens (Herakles, class act) Anyone else have drunken Herakles, coins of Herakles, drunkeness and or debauchery in general please share and thanks for taking a look! 11 5 5 2 Quote
Roman Collector Posted December 21, 2024 · Patron Posted December 21, 2024 Ain't art history fun?! 2 3 Quote
JAZ Numismatics Posted December 21, 2024 · Member Posted December 21, 2024 I can relate. 1 1 1 1 1 Quote
ominus1 Posted December 21, 2024 · Patron Posted December 21, 2024 ..i must say in my time i've been in my cups but was never really good at it either....:) 1 1 Quote
Benefactor kirispupis Posted December 21, 2024 · Benefactor Benefactor Posted December 21, 2024 Interesting pickup @Ryro. You wonder what pushed Alexandria to this reverse... Here are a few recently Herakles additions. Macrinus Moesia, Nicopolis ad Istrum 217–218 CE Æ 27mm, 12.51 gm, 6h Obv: Laur. bust r. Rev. Herakles standing r., right hand behind his back, holding club set on rock, lion skin draped over club. Varbanov 3457. HrHJ (2015) 8.23.14.3 Moesia Inferior, Nikopolis ad Istrum Elagabalus 218-222 CE Æ 26mm, 13,11g struck under governor Novius Rufus Obv.: AVT K M AVPH - ANTΩNEINOC Laureate head r. Rev.: VΠ NOBIOV POVΦOV NIKOΠOΛITΩN ΠPOC ICTP in l. and r. field O - N Herakles, bearded, nude, stg. frontal, head l., resting with r.. hand on club, lion's skin over l. arm, holding l. hand at hip Ref.: a) AMNG I/1, 1947 b) not in Varbanov c) Histova/Hoeft/Jekov (2023) 8.6.14.7 6 1 Quote
Ryro Posted December 22, 2024 · Supporter Author Posted December 22, 2024 23 hours ago, kirispupis said: Interesting pickup @Ryro. You wonder what pushed Alexandria to this reverse... My thoughts exactly. I get Tyche on the obverse. For good luck and protection. But what is a rip roaring wasted Herakles doing for them other than a good chuckle? And what exactly is the myth that is being conveyed here? One lost to time or maybe just a die engraved mimicking a popular Greek sculpture? Ps, beautiful poses on both reverses and excellent portrait of Macrinus, very menacing looking! 1 Quote
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