COULD IT BE CLEOPATRA’S TOMB ?

[Ocatarinetabellatchitchix]

Dominican archeologist Kathleen Martinez, who has been searching for Cleopatra VII’s tomb for nearly 20 years, believes she’s found a bust that depicts the Egyptian queen at the Taposiris Magna temple near Alexandria. It was carved out of white marble and depicting a female wearing a royal crown.

 

The claim has put some at odds with Martinez, as other experts say the bust looks nothing like Cleopatra. Along with the marble statue, the team also discovered 337 coins—some of which (less controversially) depict Cleopatra. Judging by the pictures, It seems they are probably Ptolemaic Kingdom bronzes of Cleopatra VII.

 

 

 

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/archaeology/a63148916/an-archaeologist-claims-shes-found-a-stunning-statue-of-cleopatra-at-her-alleged-tomb/

[Ryro]

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing! Though, I think it may just be a case of wishful thinking.

Here is a recently acquired portrait coin of histories most famous woman:

The Ptolemies, Cleopatra VII Thea Neotera, 51-30 Diobol-80 Drachmae, Alexandria circa 51-30, Æ 25.70 mm., 15.39 g.

Diademed and draped bust r. Rev. Eagle standing l. on thunderbolt; in l. field, cornucopia and in r. field, Π. Svoronos 1871. SNG Copenhagen 419.

Dark patina, About Very Fine.

[AETHER]

Interesting, a coin goal for 2025 for sure. 

[Sulla80]

It has been fun to see a little pile of these show up in the market recently, lowering prices a bit - I also picked one up.

Notes: https://www.sullacoins.com/post/cleopatra-queen-of-egypt

Edited December 19, 2024 by Sulla80

[DonnaML]

6 hours ago, Ryro said:

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing! Though, I think it may just be a case of wishful thinking.

Here is a recently acquired portrait coin of histories most famous woman:

The Ptolemies, Cleopatra VII Thea Neotera, 51-30 Diobol-80 Drachmae, Alexandria circa 51-30, Æ 25.70 mm., 15.39 g.

Diademed and draped bust r. Rev. Eagle standing l. on thunderbolt; in l. field, cornucopia and in r. field, Π. Svoronos 1871. SNG Copenhagen 419.

Dark patina, About Very Fine.

Nice pickup, but in what world is that "About very fine"? By traditional standards, wouldn't it be called "fair"?

[Alegandron]

25 minutes ago, DonnaML said:

Nice pickup, but in what world is that "About very fine"? By traditional standards, wouldn't it be called "fair"?

😄  It is NOT the coin grade, it is @Ryro's commentary on Cleo herself!  😄

[Alegandron]

 

Cleopatra VII,

Æ11 of Cyprus,

Her bust

r/cornucopiae;

F, nrly centered, smooth dark green patina with hilighting; tiny rev legnd visible;

1.8g obol Paphos mint as Isis dbl-corunc SNG Cop 649

Seller Comment:  clear portrait of the famous queen.

Ex: Frank Robinson

 

Here is a coin I am still trying to find...  😄

 

 

Edited December 19, 2024 by Alegandron

[Ryro]

45 minutes ago, DonnaML said:

Nice pickup, but in what world is that "About very fine"? By traditional standards, wouldn't it be called "fair"?

Good question. I just copied and pasted what Naville gave. 

What is the traditional standard and how do they differentiate "fair" from "about very fine"?

 

[Alegandron]

12 minutes ago, Ryro said:

Good question. I just copied and pasted what Naville gave. 

What is the traditional standard and how do they differentiate "fair" from "about very fine"?

 

I just use my grading scale...

I LIKE it, so, I BOUGHT it!  😄

 

[DonnaML]

11 minutes ago, Ryro said:

Good question. I just copied and pasted what Naville gave. 

What is the traditional standard and how do they differentiate "fair" from "about very fine"?

 

Here's a link to @dougsmit's page on traditional ancient coin grading standards, with examples: https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Standard Grading .

And here's the Coincraft page on the traditional British standards, which are very similar: https://coincraft.com/coin-grading# .

You can easily see what the different descriptive grades mean: your example would probably be considered "Good" under Doug's scale.

 

[shanxi]

Another one, not better

Cleopatra VII
AE 80 drachm
Obv.: Diademed Bust right
Rev.: KΛEOΠATPAΣ BAΣIΛIΣΣIΣ Eagle standing left on thrunderbolt, double cornucopia left, Π=value=80.
Ae, 18.03g, 26.6mm
Ref.: Svoronos: 1871