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Just got this and a few others in a group lot, nicer strike than most of the others I have seen. Sommer 68.13 SBCV-2034   3.63gm 29.55 mm

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Another. Interesting, not as small as my smallest version but not as large as my EF one. 

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2.52gm  and 22.99mm but some one attempted to flatten. SBcv 2036 Sommer 68.15? not certain. 

I will post more as I attribute but feel free to share your Latin's. 

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17 minutes ago, Nerosmyfavorite68 said:

Nice additions!

If I have them, it's in the bag o' 1990's bulk trachea.

I've been wanting to find a very large module Latin trachy, as nice as this Alexius III.

Nice Alexius III. I am in the same boat i have a bunch of trachea that I said I would get to when retired. I also have a nice lot of pre 12th century coins and a bunch of tiny medieval silver and copper coins i hope some day to get to.

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I still have several bags of trachea that needs to be photographed and classified but here are a few non-common ones:

Latin Empire of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) Æ Trachy, Constantinople (Sear 2042; DOC IV, Type V 22; Lianta 89-93)

Obv: Ο ΛΓΙΟC; Full-length figure of beardless and nimbate saint wearing short military tunic, breastplate and sagion; right hand holds spear; left hand holds shield
Rev: KOMNHNOC; Emperor seated upon throne with back, wearing stemma, divitision, collar-piece and jeweled loros of simplified type; right hand holds labarum-headed scepter; left hand holds globus cruciger

Latin Empire of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) � Trachy, Constantinople (Sear 2042; DOC IV, Type V 22; Lianta 89-93) Obv: Ο ΛΓΙΟC; Full-length figure of beardless and nimbate saint wearing short military tunic, breastplate and sagion; right hand holds spear; left hand holds shield Rev: KOMNHNOC; Emperor seated upon throne with back, wearing stemma, divitision, collar-piece and jeweled loros of simplified type; right hand holds labarum-headed scepter; left hand holds globus cruciger

 

Latin Rulers of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) Æ Trachy, Constantinople (Lianta 103-106; CLBC 11.31.1)

Obv: Full-length figure of beardless and nimbate saint wearing short military tunic, breastplate and sagion; right hand spear resting over shoulder; left hand holding shield; O/Δ/ΓI to left; O/C to right
Rev: Full-length figure of emperor, wearing stemma, divitision, collar-piece and paneled loros of simplified type; right hand holds trilobate scepter; left hand holds globus cruciger.

Latin Rulers of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) Æ Trachy, Constantinople (Lianta 103-106; CLBC 11.31.1) Obv: Full-length figure of beardless and nimbate saint wearing short military tunic, breastplate and sagion; right hand spear resting over shoulder; left hand holding shield; O/Δ/ΓI to left; O/C to right Rev: Full-length figure of emperor, wearing stemma, divitision, collar-piece and paneled loros of simplified type; right hand holds trilobate scepter; left hand holds globus cruciger.  [i]From the Iconodule Collection[/i]

 

Latin Rulers of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) BI Large Module Trachy, Constantinople (Sear 2039; CLBC 11.18.1; DOC IV Type S; Grierson 1259)

Obv: Columnar legend O/A/ΓΙ/OC to left, NЄ/T/P/O/C to right; Full-length figure of Saint Peter nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion, holds in right hand scepter cruciger, and in left, two keys
Rev: MP - ΘV in upper field, columnar legend A/ΓΙO/CO to left, PI/TI/CA to right; Full-length figure of Virgin Hagisoritissa nimbate, orans, turned to right, wearing tunic and maphorion; Manus Dei in upper field
Dim: 32 mm, 3.71 g

Latin Rulers of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) BI Large Module Trachy, Constantinople (Sear 2039; CLBC 11.18.1; DOC IV Type S; Grierson 1259) Obv: Columnar legend O/A/ΓΙ/OC to left, NЄ/T/P/O/C to right; Full-length figure of Saint Peter nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion, holds in right hand scepter cruciger, and in left, two keys Rev: MP - ΘV in upper field, columnar legend A/ΓΙO/CO to left, PI/TI/CA to right; Full-length figure of Virgin Hagisoritissa nimbate, orans, turned to right, wearing tunic and maphorion; Manus Dei in upper field Dim: 32 mm, 3.71 g

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49 minutes ago, quant.geek said:

still have several bags of trachea that needs to be photographed and classified but here are a few non-common ones:

All nice examples and in much better condition than most, and it would seem you are in the same boat as many of us, with a bag or two of trachea to go through. 

Here is my best condition one, I did not find this one in a group lot. 

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I believe this latin ruler s trachy type is the best effort, of Venetian crusader engravers, to be close to Manuel s Comnenus billon trachea (called then Manuelata - Manuel s coins).

Manuel Comnenus managed to exchange 1 of his billon trachea with 3 or 4 crusader s small silver deniers if i remember right. A nice bargain !!

The latin rulers trachy is 30 mm diameter. Type A , type B - who knows....

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There are two versions of that coin, with slight variations on the legends as noted in CLBC:

Latin Rulers of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) BI Large Module Trachy, Constantinople (Sear 2022; DOC IV.B2; CLBC 11.2.1)

Obv: IC XC in upper field; Christ, bearded and nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion, seated upon throne with back; blesses with right hand in front of chest, and holds Gospels in left hand
Rev: MANOVHA ΔЄCΠOTHC; Full length figure of emperor wearing stemma, divitision and chlamys, holds sword in right hand, point resting on ground, and in left, globus cruciger
Dim: 4.6 g; 32 mm

Latin Rulers of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) BI Large Module Trachy, Constantinople (Sear 2022; DOC IV.B2; CLBC 11.2.1) Obv: IC XC in upper field; Christ, bearded and nimbate, wearing tunic and kolobion, seated upon throne with back; blesses with right hand in front of chest, and holds Gospels in left hand Rev: MANOVHA ΔЄCΠOTHC; Full length figure of emperor wearing stemma, divitision and chlamys, holds sword in right hand, point resting on ground, and in left, globus cruciger Dim: 4.6 g; 32 mm

 

Latin Rulers of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) BI Large Module Trachy, Constantinople (Sear 2022; DOC IV.B2; CLBC 11.2.1A)

Obv: IC XC in upper field; Christ, bearded and nimbate, seated upon throne with back; holds Gospel in left hand
Rev: ΜΑΝΟVΗΛ ΠΟPΦVPΟΓЄΝ; Full-length figure of emperor wearing stemma, divitision and chlamys; right hand holds sword resting on ground; left hand holds globus cruciger

Latin Rulers of Constantinople: Anonymous (1204-1261) BI Large Module Trachy, Constantinople (Sear 2022; DOC IV.B2; CLBC 11.2.1A)  Obv: IC XC in upper field; Christ, bearded and nimbate, seated upon throne with back; holds Gospel in left hand Rev: ΜΑΝΟVΗΛ ΠΟPΦVPΟΓЄΝ; Full-length figure of emperor wearing stemma, divitision and chlamys; right hand holds sword resting on ground; left hand holds globus cruciger

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quant.geek 

The two variations of this trachy is the effort of the latin engraver to represent the two different byzantine words :

1) DECPOTHC (despot). Usual.

2) PORFHROGGENNHTOC (born in purple). Rare

(The second legend is engraved for political reasons of the latin ruler and maybe used by John of Brienne. It is a later issue of the same coin type , i believe)

(The main difference compared to Manuel Comnenus trachea is the replacement of the labarum-cross by a sword. They were crusader warriors.)

 

Merry Christmas to all, situations are simpler now than then. Stay happy.

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