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When Sparta occupied Cities in Asia Minor What coinage were they using ?


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2 minutes ago, Kosmas said:

No my question is "the cities that Sparta occupied continued minting their own coinage ? Or Not ?

That's the wrong way round 🙂 

The question is - why should they not continue to mint their own coins? What else would they mint? Sparta did not mint its own coins. 

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Just now, Prieure de Sion said:

That's the wrong way round 🙂 

The question is - why should they not continue to mint their own coins? What else would they mint? Sparta did not mint its own coins.

What about athens ?

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4 minutes ago, Prieure de Sion said:

What is about Athens? Dont understand ... sorry.

There are thousands of Athenian tetradrachms found in asia minor . Where they used by the cities as official money ?

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48 minutes ago, Kosmas said:

No my question is "the cities that Sparta occupied continued minting their own coinage ? Or Not ?

 

27 minutes ago, Kosmas said:

There are thousands of Athenian tetradrachms found in asia minor . Where they used by the cities as official money ?

Sorry. I somehow don't understand your main question or what you are getting at 😉 ...?!

Did cities that were conquered by Sparta continue to mint their own coins? Yes - what else would they do? At that time, Sparta did not mint its own coins. Therefore, conquered cities continued to mint their coins. They would not have received any coins from Sparta - since there were none. There was also a nice report the other day - unfortunately I don't remember which city state it was exactly. Sparta even financed its wars with the coins of some neighbouring cities - not with its own money.


Otherwise, I don't understand what exactly your question is. Perhaps you could explain in more detail what you want to know 🙂

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From what I have gathered over the years, Spartans did not object to the use of coinage but had little use for it among their own full Spartiates whose material needs were met from the slave labor of their Helots. They did use coinage when dealing with citizens of other states but I have never heard of them using the coinage of any other state as some kind of "legal tender" either within Lacedemonia or outside the Peloponnese. Remember that during the Hellenic period the coinage of most Greek states was not some fiat money but was a coinage based on bullion. Thus coins from one city state to another was more a practice of calculating value by weight rather than who issued it. My guess is that the Spartans accepted and used (and allowed to be issued) any kind of coinage as long as the coins seemed to be of full weight and purity. That would even seem to have included the coinage of their arch rival and sometime enemy, Athens, whose "Owls" were occasionally found to be roosting in Spartans rafters. 

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16 minutes ago, kevikens said:

From what I have gathered over the years, Spartans did not object to the use of coinage but had little use for it among their own full Spartiates whose material needs were met from the slave labor of their Helots. They did use coinage when dealing with citizens of other states but I have never heard of them using the coinage of any other state as some kind of "legal tender" either within Lacedemonia or outside the Peloponnese. Remember that during the Hellenic period the coinage of most Greek states was not some fiat money but was a coinage based on bullion. Thus coins from one city state to another was more a practice of calculating value by weight rather than who issued it. My guess is that the Spartans accepted and used (and allowed to be issued) any kind of coinage as long as the coins seemed to be of full weight and purity. That would even seem to have included the coinage of their arch rival and sometime enemy, Athens, whose "Owls" were occasionally found to be roosting in Spartans rafters. 

They were found on spartan rafters ? And what coinage did the use when they were dealing with other states ?

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From my understanding:

  • In terms of what coinage the cities under Spartan occupation used, the Spartans had no issues with them either using their own coinage or that of other states. The two most predominant coinages at the time were the Athens tet and the Persian daric/siglos.
  • The Spartans themselves didn't issue coinage until much later, and even then in limited quantities. When they had to use coinage for international commerce, they just used that of other states - again either Athens tets or Persian darics.

The book The Hellenistic World: Using Coins as Sources deals with this specific topic.

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30 minutes ago, kirispupis said:

From my understanding:

  • In terms of what coinage the cities under Spartan occupation used, the Spartans had no issues with them either using their own coinage or that of other states. The two most predominant coinages at the time were the Athens tet and the Persian daric/siglos.
  • The Spartans themselves didn't issue coinage until much later, and even then in limited quantities. When they had to use coinage for international commerce, they just used that of other states - again either Athens tets or Persian darics.

The book The Hellenistic World: Using Coins as Sources deals with this specific topic.

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