I am wanting to know what you all think about this coin

[bcuda]

I would like to know if it looks genuine to you. I am a little bit leery about it maybe because it looks kind of gritty,  almost all of these I have seen have had a dark almost blackish patina to them. 

Carthago Nova
Iberia, c. 237 - 206 B.C.
Spain, Carthago Nova Æ Unit.
Roman Occupation after 209 BC. 
Bare-head left 
(Scipio Africanus?) 
Horse standing right; palm tree
behind. CNH Class XI, 282; 
SNG BM Spain 127-128; ACIP 609. 

Edited December 15, 2024 by bcuda

[Alegandron]

Personally, it does not look right to me.

The horse does not look graceful. Other features & patina seem wrong.

[Alegandron]

along came Publius Cornelius Scipio in 209 BCE to rain on the Carthaginians' parade and conquered Carthago Nova! 


Roman Republic
Carthago Nova (Carthaginian city of Qart Hadasht) Roman Occupation by Scipio (later Africanus)
ca. 209-206 BCE
Bronze Unit
22.8mm, 9.1g
Carthago Nova mint
OBV: Bare head l, Roman style (Scipio?)
REV: Horse standing r
Rare
Sear/Seaby Vol 2 6575; SNG BM Spain 127-128; Burgos 552
ex FORVM
AE of Publius Cornelius Scipio (before he was Africanus, and while in Spain), from Carthago Nova... He was young, had been built up almost as a demi-god to politically oppose Hannibal's propaganda campaign in Italy against Rome... This whipper-snapper "figgered" it all out as to how to counter the psychological effect that Hannibal had on the Romans AND Italians for so many years!


Carthago Nova Scipio 209-206 BCE AE 14 Horse Head RARE.jpg

[Orange Julius]

Make me a bit uneasy too. Much of the reverse, especially the tree gives off a cast vibe. However, I’m looking at it with a suspicious eye.

I guess I’d follow the popular saying at FORVM, know the coin or know the seller. Meaning either you know the type well enough, you can independently tell, or that you trust the seller to sell authentic coins or refund you if you find it not authentic.

Edited December 15, 2024 by Orange Julius

[bcuda]

Appreciate your thoughts @Orange Julius and @Alegandron it really helps.

Hard to believe there are over 100 views on this thread and only 2 members had an opinion.

[CPK]

I'd offer an opinion if it was worth anything. 😉 But unfortunately I don't know enough about this type to help.

[Robi]

I think it is cast,

Greetings,

Robert

[AussieCollector]

I have zero experience in this type of coin.

So, for what it's worth, it doesn't look right to me. My opinion however, doesn't count for much on this occasion.

Edit - P.S., I'm not worried about the patina. Depending on how it was buried/whatever and cleaned, patinas will vary and the patina on this coin doesn't concern me. It's more the cast vibe that's an issue for me.

Edited December 15, 2024 by AussieCollector

[panzerman]

Me same as CPK.......

I know NOTHING about these types/ thus better not to give opinion.😇

 

But/ I wish Hannibal would have finished the job after Cannae and conquered the Roman Republic. He was the best of the best.

[Ryro]

I agree that something looks off. My advice would be, better not risk it.