Bulgarian? A little Help please.

[Simon]

29mm 2.0gm. ragged flan. I am guessing Bulgarian rulers. Am I right. If so, reference number? Thanks in advance.

I found it in a box of coins of unsorted coins I was saving. Just trying to sort it and get it into a flip. 

[JAZ Numismatics]

Bela III I think, ruled a duchy that included parts of Hungary and Croatia during the 12th century.

[Parthicus]

 I think @JAZ Numismatics's ID is probably correct.  Here's a photo of my Bela III of this type:

 

[ela126]

yes, unless yours is an imitation of the Hungarian piece, it’s Bela III. Bela 3 was in Manuel 1’s court as a traded hostage growing up, so his family pieces very closely mirrored Byzantine scyphates. A flat piece of similiar design was also minted.

My two pieces with poor orientation. Some of my first medieval purchases.

[Simon]

22 hours ago, ela126 said:

yes, unless yours is an imitation of the Hungarian piece, it’s Bela III. Bela 3 was in Manuel 1’s court as a traded hostage growing up, so his family pieces very closely mirrored Byzantine scyphates. A flat piece of similiar design was also minted.

Mine is very detailed but light, not great craftsmanship. I have no idea if it is imitation or authentic issue.

Several years ago a fellow on Ebay inherited from a dealer friend a group of coins set aside, mostly poor condition  but interesting batch for individual reasons. He was selling them for a few bucks each, I saw two I wanted so I bought the lot. I enjoy when I have the time to check them out and attribute a couple. No gems but interesting pieces. Thank you all for your help. 

Simon

[Glebe]

The interesting thing about these Hungarian scyphates is the workmanship, which is much superior to that of the Byzantines types.

The coins are neatly struck on circular flans and the curvature of the obverse and reverse dies matches, so that the characteristic double striking of Byzantine coins is unnecessary.

I'm guessing a bit here but to me they look more like brass than billon or bronze.

Ross G.