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Hi everyone!

I just bought a lot of 6 coins from an auction, and among them was this Pupienus denarius.

Pupienus Denarius - PAX AVGVSTI

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Obverse: IMP C M CLOD PVPIENVS AVG - Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust facing right.

Reverse: PAX AVGVSTI - Pax standing left holding olive branch and transverse sceptre.

Rome mint

RIC ---

PAX AVGVSTI is not a reverse known for Pupienus (only PAX PVBLICA), but it was used by Maximinus Thrax a few years earlier (see comment).

Anyway, here are the other coins from the lot!

Trajan Denarius - S P Q R OPTIMO PRINCIPI

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Obverse: IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC PM TR P COS V DES VI - Laureate bust right, slight drapery on left shoulder

Reverse: S P Q R OPTIMO PRINCIPI - Victory standing right, inscribing DA/CI/CA in three lines on shield set on palm.

Rome mint

RIC 234 (var.)

 

Philip I Antoninianus - P M TR P III COS P P

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Obverse: IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG - Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right

Reverse: P M TR P III COS P P - Felicitas standing left with caduceus and cornucopia.

Rome mint

RIC 3 

Perfect condition!

 

Elagabalus Antoninianus - P M TR P II COS II P P

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Obverse: IMP CAES M AVR ANTONINVS AVG - Radiate and draped bust to right.

Reverse: P M TR P II COS II P P - Roma seated left on throne, holding Victory in her right hand and long sceptre with her left; at her side, shield. 

Rome mint

RIC 12

 

Valerian I Antoninianus - PIETATI AVGG

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Obverse: IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS AVG - Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust to right

Reverse: PIETATI AVGG - Pietas standing to left, leaning on column and holding sceptre.

Viminacium mint

RIC 219

 

Tetricus I Antoninianus - SALVS AVGG

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Obverse: IMP C TETRICVS P F AVG - Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust of Tetricus I to right.

Reverse: SALVS AVGG - Salus standing front, head to left, feeding serpent, rising from altar, out of patera with her right hand and holding rudder in her left.

Trier mint

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Minor update

I've done some more research, and a "PAX AVGVSTI" type does exist! It's not in RIC, but the British Museum has a specimen, which they have fortunately uploaded on their website.

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https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/object/C_2004-1005-3

It's a metal detecting find, so it's definitely real. Unfortunately, it's very corroded, but is clearly a PAX AVGVSTI type

Comparing it to my coin:

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  1. Slightly higher "O" of "CLOD"
  2. Die break visible at the top left corner of the M of "C M"
  3. "Shadow" of a beard visible

The reverse of the BM coin is especially corroded, so I can't make out any distinguishing features there. However, it seems my coin is an obverse die match to a genuine example of the same type, so is real!

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There are hybrids of Pupienus and Balbinus, also others which combines obverse of Gordy 1 and 2 with reverses of Balbinus and Pupienus. The BM coin is the only one I know associating Pupienus and Maximinus. Maybe imitation ? I’d be curious to see if you can find a die-match with an official issue of both rulers. Good luck !

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2 hours ago, Ocatarinetabellatchitchix said:

There are hybrids of Pupienus and Balbinus, also others which combines obverse of Gordy 1 and 2 with reverses of Balbinus and Pupienus. The BM coin is the only one I know associating Pupienus and Maximinus. Maybe imitation ? I’d be curious to see if you can find a die-match with an official issue of both rulers. Good luck !

I think I just found the matching die for the obverse!

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The reverse of this other coin, VICTORIA AVGG, (https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=1262&lot=305) is from an Aureus die, so there are two possibilities that I can think of.

  1. My coin is a limes denarius struck from stolen/out of use dies
  2. It's some kind of trial strike, or is similar to the VICTORIA AVGG coin
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17 hours ago, Harry G said:

I think I just found the matching die for the obverse!

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The reverse of this other coin, VICTORIA AVGG, (https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=1262&lot=305) is from an Aureus die, so there are two possibilities that I can think of.

  1. My coin is a limes denarius struck from stolen/out of use dies
  2. It's some kind of trial strike, or is similar to the VICTORIA AVGG coin

I think you should publish your findings in an academic journal. An extremely interesting coin.

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