CPK Posted November 1, 2024 · Supporter Posted November 1, 2024 I'm always happy to add a new animal coin to my collection, and not long ago I had the opportunity to snag this cute little rooster! PISIDIA, ANTIOCH Time of Antoninus Pius AE (14.26mm, 1.30g, 6h) Struck AD 138-161 Obverse: ANTIOCH, draped bust of Mercury/Hermes left; to right, caduceus Reverse: CO-LONI, rooster walking right References: RPC Online, Vol. IV.3, No. 7350 An attractive specimen, with a dark patina and coppery highlights. It's not a particularly rare coin, but it's in pretty good shape and the rooster is quite nice, struck in high relief too. Let's see your own rooster coins! 🐓 28 1 3 1 3 Quote
Roman Collector Posted November 1, 2024 · Patron Posted November 1, 2024 (edited) I have that same funky chicken! Pseudo-autonomous. Roman provincial Æ 13 mm, 1.2 g. Antioch, Pisidia, time of Antoninus Pius, 138-161 CE. Obv: ANTIOCH, draped bust of Mercury/Hermes (head assimilated to portrait of Marcus Aurelius as Caesar), left; to right, caduceus. Rev: COLONI, chicken walking right. Refs: RPC IV.3, 7350 (temporary); BMC 19.176,1 (pl. XXXI, 1); SNG von Aulock 4916; Krzyżanowska 140–1, VII.7–9; cf. SNG BN 1067. And here's one with a rooster as an attribute of a deity: Gordian III, 238-244 CE. Roman Provincial Æ 35 mm, 26.72 g, 6 h. Pisidia, Antioch, 238-244 CE. Obv: IMP CAES M ANT GORDIANVS AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian III, r., seen from rear. Rev: COL CAES ANTIOCH, S-R, Mên standing r., wearing Phrygian cap, foot on bucranium, holding sceptre and Victory (standing r., on globe, holding trophy), resting elbow on column; behind his shoulders, crescent; to l., rooster standing, l. Refs: RPC VII.2, 2724; Krzyżanowska XXII/94; BMC xix.187, 70. Edited November 1, 2024 by Roman Collector 24 1 Quote
Alegandron Posted November 2, 2024 · Supporter Posted November 2, 2024 ROOSTER Campania Cales 256-240 BCE AE 18 Athena Rooster - Star 20 Quote
JayAg47 Posted November 2, 2024 · Member Posted November 2, 2024 (edited) That's a nice one! On this coin from Yaudheya republican confederacy (~3rd century AD), a bit of imagination is needed. Some attribute the bird next to Kartikeya's feet as either a rooster or a peacock, both of which are traditionally associated with him holding a spear. He's also the Hindu god of war and associated with the planet Mars. Edited November 2, 2024 by JayAg47 20 Quote
shanxi Posted November 2, 2024 · Supporter Posted November 2, 2024 another Pisidia, Antioch 'Pseudo-autonomous': Reign of Antoninus Pius. Obv.: ANTIOCHI ; head of Mên wearing Phrygian cap, r., on crescent Rev.: COLONIAE, Rooster standing right. AE, 12mm, 1.35g Ref.: Krzyżanowska 141, IX.11, RPC IV.3 №: 7352 (temporary) 17 2 Quote
antwerpen2306 Posted November 2, 2024 · Member Posted November 2, 2024 fantastic topic to make a collection but I think you have to limit you to some animals : to much species on the numismatics of a period of 1000 years and, for my wallet, some to expensive 2 1 Quote
Qcumbor Posted November 2, 2024 · Supporter Posted November 2, 2024 Nice one. A more modern rooster here France, Constitution - Ecu de six livres 1792 - Atelier de Limoges (I) LOUIS XVI ROI DES FRANCOIS . à l'exergue 1792, buste à gauche. Au dessus de la date, faisceau, différent du directeur François Alluaud (1791-An II) REGNE DE LA LOI, le Génie de la liberté à droite, gravant la CONSTITUTION. Dans le champ à gauche, faisceau de licteur surmonté d'un bonnet phrygien et croix, différent du graveur J-B La Vallée (1780-1793). Dans le champ à droite, coq et lettre d'atelier I (Limoges). A l'exergue L'AN 4 DE LA LIBERTE . en deux lignes. Signature Dupré sur le piédestal. Tranche inscrite : ꙮ LA NATION ꙮ ♣ •• ˂˃ •• ♣ ꙮ LA LOI ꙮ ♣ •• ˂˃ •• ♣ ꙮ ET LE ROI 🙞 ⚜ 🙜 29,48 gr - 39 mm Ref : Clairand # 36100, Ciani # 2238, Gadoury # 55 Q 16 Quote
ambr0zie Posted November 2, 2024 · Member Posted November 2, 2024 I bought 2 of them recently 7,1 mm, 0,22 g. Lesbos, Methymna. AR hemiobol. Circa 500/480-460 BC. Female head right, with hair bound in sakkos / Cock standing right within pelleted square border; all within incuse square. SNG von Aulock -; SNG Copenhagen -; Klein -; HGC 6, 893. This one is in better shape and also the attribution is interesting as from what I rseareched, it was also initially attributed as Methymna but later it is believed to be from Dardanos. 6,8 mm, 0,31 g. Lesbos, Methymna or Troas, Dardanos. AR hemiobol. 500/480-460 BC. Female head to left, hair bound in sakkos / Cockerel standing to right, crescent above; all in pelleted border within incuse square. HGC 6, 892 (Lesbos); CNG 230, 2010, lot 79; Roma 44, lot 176; Leu Numismatik Web Auction 19, lot 1060; Leu Numismatik Web Auction 20, lot 1081 16 Quote
Octavius Posted November 2, 2024 · Supporter Posted November 2, 2024 3rd century BC AE from Teanun Sidicinum , in Campania... 15 Quote
Benefactor kirispupis Posted November 2, 2024 · Benefactor Benefactor Posted November 2, 2024 Dardanos, Troas 4th-3rd century BCE Ae 11mm 1.1g Obv: Horseman riding right wearing petasos Rev: DAP; Rooster standing right, race torch behind SNG Cop. 290 14 Quote
TIF Posted November 3, 2024 · Supporter Posted November 3, 2024 Nice one, @CPK! I'll contribute a tasty dish, chicken and waffles 😄 TROAS, Dardanos c. 450-420 BCE AR obol; 9 mm, 0.56 gm Obv: cock standing left Rev: cross-hatch pattern Ref: Nomismata 3, 303; Demeester 98; SNG Ashmolean 1119 (all references unverified; I do not have copies of these reference books/catalogs) Clearly this is the ancient inspiration for a classic dish of the US South 😆. 12 2 1 1 1 1 Quote
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted November 3, 2024 · Member Posted November 3, 2024 It's a cute, fun new addition! I like it. Quote
Benefactor DonnaML Posted November 3, 2024 · Benefactor Benefactor Posted November 3, 2024 (edited) Very cute indeed, @CPK! I'm afraid I have no ancient coins with roosters, but I do have this: France, Third Republic, AU (.900 fineness) 10 Francs, 1911, Paris Mint. Obv. Laureate bust of Marianne right, wearing oak-wreath encircling Phrygian cap (cap of liberty), REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE around, initials J.C.C. in lower right field [for engraver Jules-Clément Chaplain] / Rev. Gallic rooster walking left in meadow of flowers, LIBERTE·EGALITE·FRATERNITE around, 10 - Fcs across fields; in exergue, 1911 flanked by privy marks of cornucopiae to left and torch to right (representing Mint Director and Chief Engraver, respectively). 19 mm., 3.2 g. Gadoury 1017, KM (Krause-Mishler) 846, Yeoman 65. And I do have these three ancient artifacts depicting roosters: Roman bronze cockerel with integral base, 2nd-3rd century AD, 50.8 mm. H (including 12.7 mm. integral base), 47.6 mm. L. Purchased 19 Dec. 2007, Artemission, London, UK. Attic Black-figure Lekythos, ca. 525-500 BCE, pygmies hunting rooster (or rooster hunting pygmies), 3 1/2" (8.9 cm) high, purchased 17 Dec. 2019, Hixenbaugh Ancient Art, NYC: Corinthian aryballos, ca. 600 BCE, rooster and swan, 62 mm. H x 56 mm. W at widest point, purchased 16 Dec. 2019, Ancient & Oriental (antiquities.co.uk, Christopher Martin): Edited November 3, 2024 by DonnaML 11 2 1 Quote
Lelouch Posted November 5, 2024 · Member Posted November 5, 2024 (edited) Obverse: Head of female left Reverse: Cock standing right; crescent above; all in dotted square within incuse square Methymna (Lesbos), (501 BC - 461 BC) - Hemiobol (1⁄12 Drachm) - 0.27g, 6mm Ref: HGC 6# 892 @ambr0zie you said this type is now attributed to Troas, Dardanos? Not doubting you or anything as I know nothing about this type, just urious where you saw that. Thanks. Edit: Was just looking at the auction references you provided. The CNG one says Lesbos. The Roma one says Dardanos, but gives no citations other than the earlier CNG Lot which says Lesbos. Same with the Leu one (Web Auction 19 - 1060) and (Web Auction 20 - 1081) they are both actually the same coin and reference the CNG one but again with no other references. They don't even reference the Roma one which is where the Dardanos location came from. So as far as I can tell it seems like Roma just said it for seemingly no reason and then everyone after copied? Actually wait a second, some of them are roosters some of them are hens. You can tell which is the rooster type as it has a more puffed out chest and a big wattle (the gobble thing). https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=387050 - Hen, listed as cock https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=357019 - Hen, listed as hen https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2419&lot=176 - Hen, listed as cock https://leunumismatik.com/en/lot/31/1060 / https://leunumismatik.com/en/lot/33/1081 - Hen, listed as rooster https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nnlondon/browse?a=4790&l=5769503 - Rooster, listed as Rooster (MINE) Your's as well is actually rooster / cock as described, but all the others except ours seem to be hens and incorrectly described except for that first CNG auction. Edited November 5, 2024 by Lelouch looked at auction links 7 Quote
David Atherton Posted November 5, 2024 · Member Posted November 5, 2024 On 11/1/2024 at 7:29 PM, CPK said: I'm always happy to add a new animal coin to my collection, and not long ago I had the opportunity to snag this cute little rooster! PISIDIA, ANTIOCH Time of Antoninus Pius AE (14.26mm, 1.30g, 6h) Struck AD 138-161 Obverse: ANTIOCH, draped bust of Mercury/Hermes left; to right, caduceus Reverse: CO-LONI, rooster walking right References: RPC Online, Vol. IV.3, No. 7350 An attractive specimen, with a dark patina and coppery highlights. It's not a particularly rare coin, but it's in pretty good shape and the rooster is quite nice, struck in high relief too. Let's see your own rooster coins! 🐓 Aside from architectural coins, those depicting animals are a personal favourite. Man, I really love this coin! Congrats! 1 Quote
CPK Posted November 5, 2024 · Supporter Author Posted November 5, 2024 On 11/1/2024 at 6:38 PM, Roman Collector said: I have that same funky chicken! Pseudo-autonomous. Roman provincial Æ 13 mm, 1.2 g. Antioch, Pisidia, time of Antoninus Pius, 138-161 CE. Obv: ANTIOCH, draped bust of Mercury/Hermes (head assimilated to portrait of Marcus Aurelius as Caesar), left; to right, caduceus. Rev: COLONI, chicken walking right. Refs: RPC IV.3, 7350 (temporary); BMC 19.176,1 (pl. XXXI, 1); SNG von Aulock 4916; Krzyżanowska 140–1, VII.7–9; cf. SNG BN 1067. And here's one with a rooster as an attribute of a deity: Gordian III, 238-244 CE. Roman Provincial Æ 35 mm, 26.72 g, 6 h. Pisidia, Antioch, 238-244 CE. Obv: IMP CAES M ANT GORDIANVS AVG, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Gordian III, r., seen from rear. Rev: COL CAES ANTIOCH, S-R, Mên standing r., wearing Phrygian cap, foot on bucranium, holding sceptre and Victory (standing r., on globe, holding trophy), resting elbow on column; behind his shoulders, crescent; to l., rooster standing, l. Refs: RPC VII.2, 2724; Krzyżanowska XXII/94; BMC xix.187, 70. Thanks Roman Collector, and great coins. As a matter of fact, I think your coin is a double die match to mine! On 11/1/2024 at 8:33 PM, Alegandron said: ROOSTER Campania Cales 256-240 BCE AE 18 Athena Rooster - Star Nice one! 👍 On 11/1/2024 at 9:37 PM, JayAg47 said: That's a nice one! On this coin from Yaudheya republican confederacy (~3rd century AD), a bit of imagination is needed. Some attribute the bird next to Kartikeya's feet as either a rooster or a peacock, both of which are traditionally associated with him holding a spear. He's also the Hindu god of war and associated with the planet Mars. Thanks Jay. Very cool coin! On 11/2/2024 at 9:37 AM, shanxi said: another Pisidia, Antioch 'Pseudo-autonomous': Reign of Antoninus Pius. Obv.: ANTIOCHI ; head of Mên wearing Phrygian cap, r., on crescent Rev.: COLONIAE, Rooster standing right. AE, 12mm, 1.35g Ref.: Krzyżanowska 141, IX.11, RPC IV.3 №: 7352 (temporary) Great strutting rooster on that one! 🙂 On 11/2/2024 at 11:37 AM, antwerpen2306 said: fantastic topic to make a collection but I think you have to limit you to some animals : to much species on the numismatics of a period of 1000 years and, for my wallet, some to expensive That's partly what makes it a fun collecting field: so much variety over so many cultures/time periods. Thankfully most aren't too expensive, although there are definitely exceptions to that rule! On 11/2/2024 at 11:44 AM, Qcumbor said: Nice one. A more modern rooster here France, Constitution - Ecu de six livres 1792 - Atelier de Limoges (I) LOUIS XVI ROI DES FRANCOIS . à l'exergue 1792, buste à gauche. Au dessus de la date, faisceau, différent du directeur François Alluaud (1791-An II) REGNE DE LA LOI, le Génie de la liberté à droite, gravant la CONSTITUTION. Dans le champ à gauche, faisceau de licteur surmonté d'un bonnet phrygien et croix, différent du graveur J-B La Vallée (1780-1793). Dans le champ à droite, coq et lettre d'atelier I (Limoges). A l'exergue L'AN 4 DE LA LIBERTE . en deux lignes. Signature Dupré sur le piédestal. Tranche inscrite : ꙮ LA NATION ꙮ ♣ •• ˂˃ •• ♣ ꙮ LA LOI ꙮ ♣ •• ˂˃ •• ♣ ꙮ ET LE ROI 🙞 ⚜ 🙜 29,48 gr - 39 mm Ref : Clairand # 36100, Ciani # 2238, Gadoury # 55 Q Beautiful and very historic coin! 👍 On 11/2/2024 at 1:01 PM, ambr0zie said: I bought 2 of them recently 7,1 mm, 0,22 g. Lesbos, Methymna. AR hemiobol. Circa 500/480-460 BC. Female head right, with hair bound in sakkos / Cock standing right within pelleted square border; all within incuse square. SNG von Aulock -; SNG Copenhagen -; Klein -; HGC 6, 893. This one is in better shape and also the attribution is interesting as from what I rseareched, it was also initially attributed as Methymna but later it is believed to be from Dardanos. 6,8 mm, 0,31 g. Lesbos, Methymna or Troas, Dardanos. AR hemiobol. 500/480-460 BC. Female head to left, hair bound in sakkos / Cockerel standing to right, crescent above; all in pelleted border within incuse square. HGC 6, 892 (Lesbos); CNG 230, 2010, lot 79; Roma 44, lot 176; Leu Numismatik Web Auction 19, lot 1060; Leu Numismatik Web Auction 20, lot 1081 Great coins, I'm always amazed at how much detail those Greek celators were able to squeeze into such a tiny canvas! On 11/2/2024 at 6:16 PM, Octavius said: 3rd century BC AE from Teanun Sidicinum , in Campania... Very nice! Love the patina! On 11/2/2024 at 6:43 PM, kirispupis said: Dardanos, Troas 4th-3rd century BCE Ae 11mm 1.1g Obv: Horseman riding right wearing petasos Rev: DAP; Rooster standing right, race torch behind SNG Cop. 290 Great little coin!👍 On 11/2/2024 at 7:43 PM, TIF said: Nice one, @CPK! I'll contribute a tasty dish, chicken and waffles 😄 TROAS, Dardanos c. 450-420 BCE AR obol; 9 mm, 0.56 gm Obv: cock standing left Rev: cross-hatch pattern Ref: Nomismata 3, 303; Demeester 98; SNG Ashmolean 1119 (all references unverified; I do not have copies of these reference books/catalogs) Clearly this is the ancient inspiration for a classic dish of the US South 😆. Haha! I think you are on to something, TIF! 🤣 Neat little coin! On 11/2/2024 at 10:20 PM, Nerosmyfavorite68 said: It's a cute, fun new addition! I like it. Thank you! On 11/2/2024 at 10:24 PM, DonnaML said: Very cute indeed, @CPK! I'm afraid I have no ancient coins with roosters, but I do have this: France, Third Republic, AU (.900 fineness) 10 Francs, 1911, Paris Mint. Obv. Laureate bust of Marianne right, wearing oak-wreath encircling Phrygian cap (cap of liberty), REPUBLIQUE FRANÇAISE around, initials J.C.C. in lower right field [for engraver Jules-Clément Chaplain] / Rev. Gallic rooster walking left in meadow of flowers, LIBERTE·EGALITE·FRATERNITE around, 10 - Fcs across fields; in exergue, 1911 flanked by privy marks of cornucopiae to left and torch to right (representing Mint Director and Chief Engraver, respectively). 19 mm., 3.2 g. Gadoury 1017, KM (Krause-Mishler) 846, Yeoman 65. And I do have these three ancient artifacts depicting roosters: Roman bronze cockerel with integral base, 2nd-3rd century AD, 50.8 mm. H (including 12.7 mm. integral base), 47.6 mm. L. Purchased 19 Dec. 2007, Artemission, London, UK. Attic Black-figure Lekythos, ca. 525-500 BCE, pygmies hunting rooster (or rooster hunting pygmies), 3 1/2" (8.9 cm) high, purchased 17 Dec. 2019, Hixenbaugh Ancient Art, NYC: Corinthian aryballos, ca. 600 BCE, rooster and swan, 62 mm. H x 56 mm. W at widest point, purchased 16 Dec. 2019, Ancient & Oriental (antiquities.co.uk, Christopher Martin): Lovely coin, but those artifacts, wow! 🤩 That hunt scene especially - I've never seen that motif before. Is it from a specific Greek myth? 4 hours ago, Lelouch said: Obverse: Head of female left Reverse: Cock standing right; crescent above; all in dotted square within incuse square Methymna (Lesbos), (501 BC - 461 BC) - Hemiobol (1⁄12 Drachm) - 0.27g, 6mm Ref: HGC 6# 892 @ambr0zie you said this type is now attributed to Troas, Dardanos? Not doubting you or anything as I know nothing about this type, just urious where you saw that. Thanks. Edit: Was just looking at the auction references you provided. The CNG one says Lesbos. The Roma one says Dardanos, but gives no citations other than the earlier CNG Lot which says Lesbos. Same with the Leu one (Web Auction 19 - 1060) and (Web Auction 20 - 1081) they are both actually the same coin and reference the CNG one but again with no other references. They don't even reference the Roma one which is where the Dardanos location came from. So as far as I can tell it seems like Roma just said it for seemingly no reason and then everyone after copied? Actually wait a second, some of them are roosters some of them are hens. You can tell which is the rooster type as it has a more puffed out chest and a big wattle (the gobble thing). https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=387050 - Hen, listed as cock https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=357019 - Hen, listed as hen https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=2419&lot=176 - Hen, listed as cock https://leunumismatik.com/en/lot/31/1060 / https://leunumismatik.com/en/lot/33/1081 - Hen, listed as rooster https://www.biddr.com/auctions/nnlondon/browse?a=4790&l=5769503 - Rooster, listed as Rooster (MINE) Your's as well is actually rooster / cock as described, but all the others except ours seem to be hens and incorrectly described except for that first CNG auction. Great little coin! 4 hours ago, David Atherton said: Aside from architectural coins, those depicting animals are a personal favourite. Man, I really love this coin! Congrats! Thanks David! 1 Quote
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