one more for my collection campgate coins

[mc9]

Here i have a campgate coin from Constantine I with closed doors ?

Rome; 2,62 gr.; 18,42 mm. from Nummitra auction 34 nr 523.

It is not in RIC sinds obverse typ D7 is not listed for this coin. ( RIC 176 )

Looking to the top of the campgate there seems to be 6 turrets. 3 little ones and 3 big ones.

There is also an " extra wall" to the top of the design, where the 3 big turrets rest on.

Has anyone seen this design in this configuration? Please feel free to post any coins you find relevant .

Thanks,  MC9

Edited October 22, 2024 by mc9

[Victor_Clark]

21 minutes ago, mc9 said:

Looking to the top of the campgate there seems to be 6 turrets. 3 little ones and 3 big ones.

 

Those are windows or archways on the turrets. Below is an example of Rome 176 for comparison.

 

[mc9]

Victor, thanks for your reply.

You are right, i have 3 other coins of this type for Constantine I, a P,T and another Q.

What do you do with the extra level ( line ) on top of the bilding?

I see that on the right side that little turret has seperet ( to the lower brick line ) ' ankers ' then the big one.

Thank , MC9

[Victor_Clark]

The extra line is just an engraver's whim. Notice the coin I posted above has an unusual rounded arch around the doorway. There are many different little variations in campgates.

 

this one is not in RIC and has a helmet with a crest made from feathers instead of the usual horsehair; circular elements (windows) on towers and a triangular arch over the doors.

Constantine I
A.D. 318- 319
18x19mm 3.1g
CONST-ANTINVS AVG; helmeted and cuirassed bust right.
VIRTVS AVGG; campgate with three turrets and closed gate; across fields P-R
In ex. RP
RIC VII Rome –

Not in RIC…should come after Rome 176

 

here's another with an unusual archway and windows

Constantine I
A.D. 318- 319
19mm 3.1g
CON-STANTI-NVS AVG; cuirassed and helmeted bust left, spear pointing forward and shield on left arm.
VIRTVS AVGG; camp gate with closed doors and three turrets, across fields P-R
In ex. RP
RIC VII Rome 178

 

here's an example that I sold with arches

 

 

 

here's an example that I saw several years ago with a wavy line connecting the turrets.

 

 

 

[mc9]

Victor,

Here a sample ( 8 out of 22 ) different campgate revers coins from Rome with 3 or 4 turrets in my collection.

Constantine 1:

Crispus

Constantinus 2

and Licinius 2

[mcwyler]

I'll just add another "wavy turrets" one

 

[Heliodromus]

20 hours ago, mc9 said:

Looking to the top of the campgate there seems to be 6 turrets. 3 little ones and 3 big ones.

There is also an " extra wall" to the top of the design, where the 3 big turrets rest on.

Has anyone seen this design in this configuration?

There's a lot of variation on these - the engravers apparently didn't feel much need to conform too closely to an exact type.

I wonder if the engraver was trying to suggest a sort of 3-D representation with the far wall visible?

Compare to these two (not my coins). The aureus is obviously earlier, but maybe a similar idea?

 

 

[mc9]

@mcwyler : Thank you for showing this exellent coin.

@Heliodromus : I think this coin could be some kind of experiment, to be further developed?

                             Thank you for sharing these beautiful coins.