NewStyleKing Posted September 5 · Member Share Posted September 5 https://www.academia.edu/95114677/Remelted_or_overstruck_cases_of_monetary_damnatio_memoriae_in_Hellenistic_times?email_work_card=title I thought some might be interested in this. I am because of the remarkably overstamped Athens NewStyle of king Mithradates and Aristion. Yes, I agree it is to damn the Pontic symbol and all that entails. But what prof. deCallatay doesn't say is why headdress of Isis was possibly chosen. I have maintained because of the first disastrous setback to Mithradates. His attack on Rhodes was a farce where his assault was thwarted by none other than the goddess Isis who intervened by hurling thunderbolts. Rhodes, Rome's ally was saved . It is my contention that the headdress of Isis symbol became a pro-Roman symbol of defiance and why it was selected to trump the pontic star between 2 crescents. Symbols are more potent than words and are a visual form of literacy available to all. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted September 5 · Member Author Share Posted September 5 You might have read that Gold issues by Athens was rare and only seemed to have happened during times of political stress. I think this qualifies! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor robinjojo Posted September 5 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted September 5 (edited) Interesting coins! I was totally unaware of the Isis counterstamp. Here's an account of the siege of Rhodes by Mithradates in 88 BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Rhodes_(88_BC)#:~:text=The siege of Rhodes took,%2C Lucius Cassius%2C with them. Here's my new style with Roma seated on the reverse, clearly not subjected to the Roman victors' counterstamp. Athens, new style owl, 91/0 AD, Roma seated on reverse, month Z on amphora, control ΔΑ below. reverse legend: XENOCLES HARMOXENOS. Thompson 1123 16.56 grams This coin was struck at the beginning of the Social War (91-87 BC) in Italy, a time of rebellion by some of Rome's autonomous allies. Preceding the First Mithridatic War (89–85 BC) this owl leaves no ambiguity regarding allegiance. Edited September 5 by robinjojo 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewStyleKing Posted September 6 · Member Author Share Posted September 6 (edited) 11 hours ago, robinjojo said: Interesting coins! I was totally unaware of the Isis counterstamp. Here's an account of the siege of Rhodes by Mithradates in 88 BC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Rhodes_(88_BC)#:~:text=The siege of Rhodes took,%2C Lucius Cassius%2C with them. Here's my new style with Roma seated on the reverse, clearly not subjected to the Roman victors' counterstamp. Athens, new style owl, 91/0 AD, Roma seated on reverse, month Z on amphora, control ΔΑ below. reverse legend: XENOCLES HARMOXENOS. Thompson 1123 16.56 grams This coin was struck at the beginning of the Social War (91-87 BC) in Italy, a time of rebellion by some of Rome's autonomous allies. Preceding the First Mithridatic War (89–85 BC) this owl leaves no ambiguity regarding allegiance. The overstamped coin was bought without provenance by the BNF after NSSCA was published and (as far as I know), nothing was ever published about, although it might have been written about in Les histories des guerres Mithradatiques... ..... by deCallatay 1997...that photo came via that anyway. The next person who definitely wrote it was NewStyleKing who seems to link the headdress of Isis, the defeat of king Mithradates at the Siege of Rhodes and the Epiphany of Isis as a propaganda symbol against pontus in Headdress of Iset-who wears the crown? on academia.edu. The Roma coin's symbol was questioned ..why was it here? The Romalia festival commemorated? At such a fevered time! Obverse die linked to what is called Nike crowning Roma..why? Festival , Sura defeating tribes, the Roman social wars......who really knows BUT number 1 magistrate is Kointos which is the Greek version of the Roman name Quintus, Romans had stormed the magistrates in Athens! An imitation(3rd coin of mine) copies the Roma version but the figure is likely to be Aetolia replacing Roma. The magistrates names are copied..but I have said that symbols are very potent forms of propaganda... Was this a propaganda piece mocking Rome? Aetolia defeated the Celts and sat on their shields....is this referring to Romans or Mithradates?...... Athens New Style Tetradrachm c91/0 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 29.9 mm 16.4 gm Thompson issue (new) 75 Thompson catalogue: Obs1122/Rev1123 NEW Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora on which month mark H/Z control ΣTΕ/ΔΑ below 2 magistrates : XENOCLES HARMOXENOS RF symbol : Roma seated Athens New Style Tetradrachm c90/89 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 30.5 mm 15.67 gm corroded Thompson issue (new) 76 Thompson catalogue: 1128a Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora on which month mark Γ control ΠΡ below 3 magistrates : KOINTOS KLEAS DIONYSI RF symbol : Roma & Nike All surrounded by an olive wreath Athens New Style Tetradrachm c90/9 BC Obs : Athena Parthenos right in tri-form helmet 29 mm 16.53 gm Thompson catalogue: IMITATION Obs : 1420 Rev : NEW Rev : ΑΘΕ ethnic Owl standing on overturned panathenaic amphora on which month mark A control ? below 2 magistrates : XENOCLES HARMOXENOS RF symbol : Aetolia ? All surrounded by an olive wreath Edited September 6 by NewStyleKing 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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