Coinmaster Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 (edited) Hi all, Some while ago, I bought this coin from Tetricus I (271-274) because of the decent portrait and low prize (15,- Euro) (16 mm, 2.7 g) I have some difficulties attributing the coin, but maybe it's a 'barbaric' one, not from the official mints? The obverse reads (I think) IMP C TETRICVS, corresponding with nr. 5 in this ERIC-overview. And, while we're at it, show me your Tetricus! Edited August 22 by Coinmaster 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kali Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 Tetricus I (271 - 274 A.D.) Æ Antoninianus O: IMP C TETRICVS P F AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right. R: VICTORIA AVG, Victory walking left, wreath in right, palm frond in left. Colonia Agrippinensis (Cologne, Germany) mint, 271 A.D. 3g 19mm RIC V, part II, 139 Ex. Heritage Auction, May 8, 2014, Lot 61194 (part of). 11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 (edited) I think your coin is https://numismatics.org/ocre/id/ric.5.tet_i.130 Correct, I also see the obverse legend starting with IMP C TETRICVS but I think it is longer and off the flan. And the reverse should be Spes raising skirt and holding flower. I am not a specialist in these, but I would say the coin is official. I strongly suspect my Tetricus I is barbarous 13,9 mm, 1,38 g. Barbarous imitation of Tetricus I 271-274 AD. Ӕ antoninianus. IMP C TETRICVS P F AVG or IMP C TETRICVS P F AV, bust of Tetricus I, radiate, draped, cuirassed, right / SALVS AVG, Salus, draped, standing left, feeding snake rising from altar with right hand and holding sceptre or anchor in left hand. Cf RIC V Tetricus I 121. And I also have a Tetricus II as Caesar, this time official. 19 mm, 2,19 g. Tetricus II, as Caesar. 273-274. Æ antoninianus. Treveri. C PIV ESV TETRICVS CAES, bust of Tetricus II, radiate, draped, right / PIETAS AVGVSTOR, pontifical implements. RIC V Tetricus I 258. Edited August 22 by ambr0zie 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 1 hour ago, Coinmaster said: have some difficulties attributing the coin, Your coin is Mairat 792 (if it’s the doted obverse legend) or 793 (no dots). With the COMES AVG reverse. Also Cunetio 2602, RIC 56, Elmer 774. It’s from Trier Issue 4. 11 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 Nice work, @Ocatarinetabellatchitchix. I was quite positive it's a Spes coin but I think your attribution is correct. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted August 22 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted August 22 (edited) A relatively recent acquisition (June, 2023) from Frank Robinson. FIDES MILITVM Edited August 22 by Ancient Coin Hunter 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 (edited) 11 minutes ago, ambr0zie said: Nice work, @Ocatarinetabellatchitchix. I was quite positive it's a Spes coin but I think your attribution is correct. The challenge is that the E looks like a 8… (same on my coin) but we can clearly see the wing of Victoria and also the palm. I know this reverse pretty well, very common for Tet I but if you see a Victorinus with it, please jump on it ! Edited August 22 by Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Precision 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted August 22 · Patron Share Posted August 22 Nice Tetricus I snack, @Coinmaster! A fun reverse type, too. Comes means companion, comrade, partner, etc. It's where the word Count (as in Count Dracula) comes from. I only have the Hilaritas and Laetitia types. 14 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted August 22 · Supporter Share Posted August 22 I have a lot of the Tetricuses. They are rarely nice but can be interesting. Here's Tetricus IITetricus II Antoninianus, 273-274Cologne or Trier. Bronze, 2.56g. Radiate, draped Bust A right; C PIV ESV TETRICVS CAES. Spes walking left, holding flower and raising skirt; SPES AVGG (RIC V.2, 270). From the Beachy Head Hoard 1973, 5,540 third century antoniniani in a bronze bucket, a few yards from finds in 1961 and 1964.Tetricus II Barbarous Radiate, 273-280Imitating Cologne. Bronze, 16mm, 2.41g. Radiate beardless? bust right, very crude letters. Equitas standing, holding scales and cornucopia; AEQ[UITAS AVG]. Found in Britain. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted August 22 · Supporter Share Posted August 22 Tetricus I and IITetricus I and II Barbarous Radiate, 273-280Britain. Bronze, 17mm, 1.55g. Radiate head of Tetricus I. Radiate head of Tetricus II (cf RIC V, Tetricus I 201). Found Forest of Dean 1870. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted August 22 · Supporter Share Posted August 22 Tetricus I barbarousTetricus I Barbarous Radiate, 274-280Imitating Colonia Agrippinensis. Bronze, 13mm, 0.86g. Radiate head left; (IMP TET)RICVS (P F AVG). Salus standing facing, head left; SA(LVS AVGG) (cf RIC V2, 127). From the Whitchurch (Somerset) Hoard.Tetricus I Barbarous Radiate, 274-280Imitating Colonia Agrippinensis. Bronze, 10mm, 0.32g. Radiate head left; (IMP TETRICVS P) F AVG. Laetitia standing, holding rudder and cornucopea; (LAETITIA) AVG (cf RIC V2, 86). Found in Britain. 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted August 22 · Supporter Share Posted August 22 Tetricus ITetricus I Antoninianus, 271-274Cologne/Southern Gallic Mint. Billon, 17mm, 2.16g. Bust of Tetricus I, radiate, draped, cuirassed, right; IMP C TETRICVS P F AVG. Victory, winged, draped, walking left, holding wreath in right hand and palm in left hand; VICTORIA AVG (RIC V, 141). From the Mossy Bottom Barn (West Sussex) Hoard 1999. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotwheelsearl Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 I love how Tetricus always has the most naturalistic portrait, but I guess they pawned off the reverses on the junior guys. Also, the flans are often atrocious. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 I also have too many to show here, but two of my favorites: a minim and a left facing bust. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Julius Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 Don’t have time to write much about them but here are a few of my Tetricus coins! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted August 22 · Member Share Posted August 22 It looks like there was a lot of barbarous small bronze coins made, maybe as many as the official coins 😂. Pictured below is one from my collection. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunir caM Posted August 23 · Member Share Posted August 23 This coin has a story to tell, i have identified 3 different Reverses on the coin which i assume could only have come from re cutting the die. It is currently a Tetricus SALVS AVGG Reverse, Snake, Altar, Patera, Anchor. There is also ghosting of the L arm holding a spear ( SALVS variety ) & the R arm of SPES holding Flowers ( plus other bits i don't fully understand ) All of this combined with a CLAVDIVS II Obverse which may have started life as an Official die. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madhatter Posted August 27 · Member Share Posted August 27 @Orange Julius Im not 100% sure, but the obverse of mine looks like die match of your Virtus 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordianAppreciator101 Posted August 27 · Member Share Posted August 27 Even if (understandably) Gordian III is my favorite, I gotta say Tetricus is in the top of collectible emperors: Here's all my examples. Tetricus, IMP C C ESV TETRICVS AVG - VICTORIA AVG. RIC V 140 Tetricus, IMP TETRICVS P F AVG - HILARITAS AVGG. RIC V 80 Tetricus, IMP TETRICVS P F AVG - VIRTVS AVGG. RIC V 148. And as a special extra... A bunch of Tetricus Gallic Radiates. (Palm of my hand for size reference) 7 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordianAppreciator101 Posted August 27 · Member Share Posted August 27 On 8/22/2023 at 1:28 PM, Ocatarinetabellatchitchix said: Your coin is Mairat 792 (if it’s the doted obverse legend) or 793 (no dots). With the COMES AVG reverse. Also Cunetio 2602, RIC 56, Elmer 774. It’s from Trier Issue 4. Fantastic beard on that Tetricus of yours, less pointy than usual. Almost resembles Postumus. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furryfrog02 Posted August 27 · Supporter Share Posted August 27 Here are my favorite 2 Tetricus (ai?) Father and Son Tetricus I 270-273 AD AE Antoninianus Obverse: IMP C TETRICVS P F AVG, radiate, cuirassed bust right Reverse: VICTORIA AVG, Victory walking left, holding wreath & palm. Tetricus II Bi. antoninianus. Hybrid with reverse of Tetricus I.| Obverse: C PIV ESV TETRICVS CAES, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right Reverse: COMES AVG, Victory standing left, holding wreath and palm 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Julius Posted August 28 · Member Share Posted August 28 6 hours ago, madhatter said: @Orange Julius Im not 100% sure, but the obverse of mine looks like die match of your Virtus You may be right, very cool! Nice coin, thanks for showing me! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry G Posted August 28 · Member Share Posted August 28 (edited) Here are a couple of mine Obverse: IMP C TETRICVS•P•F•AVG, Radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right Reverse: SPES PVBLICA, Spes holding flower and lifting skirt This one gives Tetricus' full name. Obverse: IMP C G P ESVVIVS TETRICVS AVG, Radiate, draped, cuirassed bust right Reverse: VICTORIA AVG, Victory advancing left holding wreath Edited August 28 by Harry G 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tejas Posted August 28 · Member Share Posted August 28 (edited) Here is a Tetricus (or Victorinus?) minimus from my collection. It is the smallest minimus I have ever come across with a diameter of just 0.9 cm. I always thought that these imitations of coins of the Gallic empire were produced by inofficial Roman mints. However, I recently discovered that I was wrong about that. In the book "Vandalen, Burgunden & Co - Germanen in der Lausitz", which is a catalog of the Museum der Westlausitz they show the hoard of Echzell, Wetteraukreis (p. 35) from the Germanic settlement of "Heinrichswiese". The hoard included 6 Tetricus imitations, one bronze bar and three blanks, which prove that the coins were struck locally. Echzell is located just north of Frankfurt a.M., but at the time of the striking of these coins the limes was obsolete, and the border to the Roman Empire was hundreds of kilometers away. I really don't know why Germanic people made these coins. This coins looks stylistically similar to the coins from Echzell: Edited August 28 by Tejas 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanxi Posted August 29 · Supporter Share Posted August 29 Bad reverse, strange flan, but the best portrait of Tetricus I have. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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