Help ID Celtic Britain coin

[Amarmur]

What do you think of this coin? It looked pretty interesting despite being worn and I could not resist the $20 price tag. Here is the eBay link: Celtic Britain, Atrebates. Verica, 10-40 AD Bronze Coin | eBay  I think it has Hercules on it.

I got it from a fairly reliable source, and it looks authentic, however, I wanted to narrow it down to its RIC and i'm not sure its correctly identified.

 

 

 

 

[DCCR]

Verica doesn't have any bronze coins attributed to him; just gold and silver.  As the seller has attributed it to Verica he/she should be able to give you a standard reference for it, or at least explain the Verica link. 

[John Conduitt]

How big and heavy is it?

It won't be in RIC. Van Arsdell, Rudd (ABC) or Spink, perhaps. If it is British Celtic, it's more likely to be from the Catuvellauni/Trinovantes, someone like Cunobelin or Tasciovanus, but what looks like a Celtic legend doesn't really fit. It might be part of the mint, Camulodunon (CAMV). The obverse doesn't make much sense to me, with two curved borders and nothing else I can make out.

Edited August 3, 2023 by John Conduitt

[Amarmur]

1 hour ago, John Conduitt said:

How big and heavy is it?

It won't be in RIC. Van Arsdell, Rudd (ABC) or Spink, perhaps. If it is British Celtic, it's more likely to be from the Catuvellauni/Trinovantes, someone like Cunobelin or Tasciovanus, but what looks like a Celtic legend doesn't really fit. It might be part of the mint, Camulodunon (CAMV). The obverse doesn't make much sense to me, with two curved borders and nothing else I can make out.

It's 0.8 grams and smaller than a US Penny according to the eBay listing 

[John Conduitt]

That's anything up to 18mm, which is pretty much all Celtic bronze, but 0.8g is lighter than anything else too.

[Finn235]

Looks like an AE4 to me. There is a fairly type from Carthage with a chi-rho in a double circle, minted under the Vandals and/or Justinian

[Amarmur]

3 hours ago, Finn235 said:

Looks like an AE4 to me. There is a fairly type from Carthage with a chi-rho in a double circle, minted under the Vandals and/or Justinian

Interesting but I hope it's from the Vandals at least because I already have a lot of Byzantine coins. If it isn't I might ask for a return it. Well it was a good risk I think.

[Amarmur]

Update: The seller told me the coin guy that identified it used the book 1978 Coins of England and narrowed it down to that tribe

 

But I believe it's a Vandals coin too

[John Conduitt]

7 hours ago, Amarmur said:

Update: The seller told me the coin guy that identified it used the book 1978 Coins of England and narrowed it down to that tribe

 

But I believe it's a Vandals coin too

 If you only had the coins of England to go by, you would pick a Celtic tribe, but he picked the wrong one 🤣

It's interesting they used the book 'Coins of England'. They must've expected it to be English. So was it found there? In which case, if it's a vandal coin, it comes from a time when there was no coinage in Britain.