expat Posted July 27 · Supporter Share Posted July 27 (edited) As the Son of Philip the Arab, he was Caesar aged 7, Consul and Augustus, joint ruler of the Empire aged 10, and dead at 12. There appears to be 2 schools of thought regarding his death. Firstly, that he was killed with his Father. Secondly, that when news of Philip the Arabs death filtered through, the Praetorian Guard killed him in order to get the Emperor they wanted. Either way, a short but eventful life. This coin, received today, shows Philip I and II together on the reverse. A wonderful coin which I am very happy to have acquired. Marcus Julius Severus Philippus (Philip the younger). Struck under Philip I Philip II, AR antoninianus. 22.4 mm, 4.91 g.(Thick flan), Rome mint, 249AD. IMP PHILIPPVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right. / LIBERALITAS AVGG III, Philip I, holding short sceptre, and Philip II seated left on curule chairs, extending right hands. RIC 230; RSC 17, Sear 9265. Appears to be reverse die match to example held by American Numismatic Society, http://numismatics.org/collection/1957.172.754 Show your Philip the Younger examples Edited July 27 by expat 22 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Conduitt Posted July 27 · Supporter Share Posted July 27 Young, but lots of coins.Philip II Antoninianus, 246-247Rome. Silver, 22mm, 4.55g. Bust of Philip II, radiate, draped, cuirassed, right, IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG. Sol, radiate, advancing left, raising right hand and holding whip in left hand, AETERNIT IMPER (RIC IV, Philip I 226). Found near Woodbridge, Suffolk. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Collector Posted July 28 · Patron Share Posted July 28 I like the reverse on that new coin, @expat! Coingratulations on the acquisition! My favorite coin of Philip II is this sestertius. Philip II as Caesar under Philip I, AD 244-247. Roman orichalcum sestertius, 19.61 g, 28.3 mm, 11 h. Rome, AD 245-246. Obv: M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES, bare-headed and draped bust right. Rev: PRINCIPI IVVENT S C, Philip II in military dress, standing left, holding globe and resting on spear. Refs: RIC 256a; Cohen 49; RCV 9249; Hunter 14. 14 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerosmyfavorite68 Posted July 28 · Member Share Posted July 28 It certainly is a charming example, and a nice acquisition. The little fellow allegedly was always in a bad temper (Mike Duncan's podcast & Totalus Rankium). My only nice Philip II is in a crappy slab. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted July 28 · Supporter Share Posted July 28 one of my favorite coins!... 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Kowsky Posted July 28 · Member Share Posted July 28 (edited) Pictured below are 4 tetradrachms from my collection struck in the name of Philip II, from the mint at Antioch, Syria. Edited July 28 by Al Kowsky correction 10 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor Ancient Coin Hunter Posted July 28 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted July 28 Phillip II as Caesar, A.D. 244-246 AR Antoninianus, 25mm, 4.1 grams Rome, A.D. 244-246 Obverse: M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES, radiate and draped bust right Reverse: PRINCIPI IVVENT, prince standing left, holding globe and spear; to left, captive seated left Reference RIC 219 From the Eng Collection 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambr0zie Posted July 28 · Member Share Posted July 28 Here's a ... poor version of @Roman Collector's coin, with a mirrored reverse Philip II, as Caesar AD 244-246. Rome. Sestertius Æ. 30 mm, 14,16 g. AD 244 - AD 246 M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES, bust of Philip II, bare-headed, draped, right / PRINCIPI IVVENT S C, Philip II, in military attire, standing right, holding transverse spear in right hand and globe in left hand RIC IV Philip I 255 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor LONGINUS Posted July 28 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted July 28 (edited) Great coin and post, @expat! History dealt out some very tragic endings for both Philips. Edited July 28 by LONGINUS 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julius Germanicus Posted July 28 · Member Share Posted July 28 My Sestertius version of the OP coin went to a new home at the latest Leu auction: IMP M IVL PHILIPPVS AVG - Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Philip II right, seen from behind LIBERALITAS AVGG III - Philip II and Philip I, wearing togas, seated left on curule chairs; each extending right hands; Philip I also holding scepter in his left hand; SC in exergue. Sestertius, Rome 249 (11. emission) 17,25 gr / 29 mm RIC 267a, Cohen 18, Sear 9279, Banti 1 (66 specimens) 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted July 28 · Supporter Share Posted July 28 For some reason, other than me collecting specifically coins of his, I have a few examples to show Sesterce de l'atelier de Rome, 245-246 CE Tetradrachme de billon de l'atelier d'Antioche, 247 CE Tetradrachme de billon de l'atelier d'Antioche, 248 CE Tetrassarion de l'atelier de Samosata (Commagène) - ca 247/249 CE Tetrassarion de l'atelier de Cyrrhus (Syrie) - ca 247/249 CE Q 11 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientOne Posted July 28 · Member Share Posted July 28 Pamphylia, Perga. Philip II AE23 Obv: ΑΥ Κ Μ ΙΟΥ ϹƐΟΥ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟϹ Ϲ(Ɛ); laureate, draped and cuirassed bust of Philip II, r., seen from rear; below, globe. Rev: ΠƐΡΓΑΙΩΝ; chest holding three purses. Thrace, Bizya. Philip II, AE18. Eros Obv: M IOVL FILIPPOC KAICAP, bare head right. Rev: BIZVHNWN, Eros standing left, leaning on & extinguishing inverted torch. Varbanov 1606. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ocatarinetabellatchitchix Posted July 29 · Member Share Posted July 29 On 7/27/2023 at 3:14 PM, expat said: Show your Philip the Younger examples I knew I had one somewhere, and thanks you made me find it. Not very original but at least I can contribute to your thread. 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octavius Posted July 31 · Supporter Share Posted July 31 Philip the younger antoninianus with Pax reverse... 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted July 31 · Benefactor Benefactor Share Posted July 31 I have a few coins of Philip II. Of course he looks way older than he really was in all of them. Perhaps in his mid- or late teens at a minimum. And certainly less realistically a child than on coins I've seen with portraits of, say, Diadumenian or Valerian II or Licinius II. Or young Caracalla or Geta. So the engravers were certainly capable of portraying a child as a child, and the choice not to do so with Philip II must have been deliberate. Philip II, Caesar (son of Philip I) AR Antoninianus, 247 AD, Obv. Radiate head right, M IVL PHILIPPVS CAES/ Philip II standing left holding a globe and scepter, captive at his feet, PRINCIPI IVVENT. RIC IV-3 219, RSC IV 57. 23 mm., 4.42 g. Philip II, Caesar AR Antoninianus, 248 AD, Rome Mint, 3rd Officina. Obv. Radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right, IMP PHILIPVS AVG/ Rev. Moose [North American term for northern European elk]* standing left, SAECVLARES AVGG, III in exergue. RIC IV-3 224, RSC IV 72, Sear RCV III 9275 (ill.). 22 mm., 4.33 g., 12 h. (Games commemorating 1,000th anniversary of founding of Rome.) * See Sear RCV III at p. 187: "The animal on reverse has traditionally been identified as a goat, but cf. John Twente in 'The Celator,' Jan. 2002, p. 38. There seems little likelihood of the common goat having been featured as one of the exotic animals in the arena, whereas the northern European elk (North American moose) would have been a most suitable candidate." Philip II, billon Tetradrachm, 248-249 AD, Syria, Seleucis and Pieria, Antioch Mint. Obv. Laureate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind, AYTOK K M IOΥΛI ΦIΛIΠΠOC CEB / Rev. Eagle standing facing, head right, wings spread, holding wreath in its beak, ΔHMAΡX EΞ OYCIAC YΠA TO Δ [4th consulship]; ANTIOXIA / S C in two lines below eagle. Prieur 474 [Michel and Karin Prieur, Syro-Phoenician Tetradrachms (London, 2000)]; BMC 20 Syria 560 [Warwick Wroth, A Catalog of the Greek Coins in the British Museum, Vol. 20, Galatia, Cappadocia, and Syria (London, 1899) at p. 218]; McAlee 1042 (Series 5) (ill. p. 353) [Richard McAlee, The Coins of Roman Antioch (2007)]; RPC VIII No. 29020 (https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/29020). 27.15 mm., 14.00 g. Ex CNG Electronic Auction 466, April 22, 2020, part of Lot 728. Philip II, AE Tetrassarion, 247-249 AD, Moesia Inferior, Tomis [now Constanţa, Romania]. Obv. Bareheaded, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from rear, Μ ΙΟΥΛ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟC ΚΑΙCΑΡ / Rev. Griffin seated left with right paw on top of wheel [representing Nemesis*], ΜΗ-ΤΡΟ-Π-ΠΟ, continued in exergue in two lines: NTOΥ ΤΟΜΕ/ΩϹ (ME ligate), Δ in right field [signifying the denomination, 4 assaria]. 27 mm., 12.22 g. RPC [Roman Provincial Coinage] VIII Online 28171 [temporary ID number] (see https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/28171) [this coin is Specimen 7, used as primary illustration for type, see https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coin/156187 ]; Varbanov 5781 [Varbanov, Ivan, Greek Imperial Coins And Their Values, Volume I: Dacia, Moesia Superior & Moesia Inferior (English Edition) (Bourgas, Bulgaria, 2005)]. Purchased from Herakles Numismatics, Jan. 2021; ex I-Nummis, Paris, Mail Bid Sale 6, Nov. 7, 2008, Lot 399 (see https://www.coinarchives.com/a/openlink.php?l=239902|348|399|a3b582d0b87f863b39d084dd851a7a89). [“Scarce”: 11 specimens in RPC (including this coin), 6 examples in ACSearch (including this coin).] *See https://www.getty.edu/publications/romanmosaics/catalogue/8/ : “The image of a griffin supporting one of its forepaws on a wheel appears in Roman art by the first century AD. The wheel, a symbol of the cyclical movement of human fortune, and the winged griffin are both distinctive attributes of Nemesis, the goddess of vengeance, who is also often represented with wings. In a first-century AD wall painting from the House of the Fabii at Pompeii, Apollo and two female figures are accompanied by a winged griffin with a wheel. This motif also occurs on coins of Alexandria dating to the reign of the emperor Domitian (AD 81–96). Scenes depicting Nemesis with a griffin are especially common during the second and third centuries AD and occur in many different media, including coins, gems, statues, and funerary and votive reliefs. The particular image of a griffin resting its paw on a wheel, typically seated at the foot of Nemesis, is so pervasive that it eventually became a symbol for the goddess herself. For example, a limestone mold of the second to third centuries AD from Egypt, possibly from Alexandria, shows a griffin and a wheel with the Greek inscription Nemesis. Representations of the griffin with a wheel unaccompanied by Nemesis, as in the Getty mosaic, are particularly common in North Africa and the eastern periphery of the Roman Empire. The motif appears in the second and third centuries AD in Egyptian statuettes in faience [see image at https://www.getty.edu/publications/romanmosaics/assets/images/pics/pic_30_faience-egyptian-statuette.jpg], relief stelai from the amphitheater at Leptis Magna in present-day Libya; tomb paintings in Jordan; a votive marble statue from Erez, Israel, bearing a dedicatory inscription in Greek (dated AD 210–211); gems from Caesarea Maritima in Israel and Gadara in Jordan; and terracotta tesserae from Palmyra. While the worship of Nemesis was widespread across the Roman Empire, it was particularly prevalent in Egypt, where she had a pre-Roman cult, and in Syria and the surrounding regions, where she was associated with several important local deities, including the classical goddesses Tyche (personification of fortune) and Nike (personification of victory) and the Arabic deities Allath (goddess of war) and Manawat (goddess of fate).” [Footnotes omitted.] Philip II, as Caesar, AE Pentassarion [5 Assaria], 247-249 AD, Moesia Inferior, Marcianopolis [now Devnya, Bulgaria] Mint. Obv. Confronted busts of Philip II, bareheaded, draped and cuirassed, right, seen from behind, and Serapis, crowned with modius, draped, left; Μ ΙΟΥΛΙΟϹ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟϹ ΚΑΙ - ϹΑΡ ΑΥΓ around, with “ϹΑΡ ΑΥΓ” in exergue [ = “Marcus Iulius Philippus Caesar Augusti filius”]* / Rev. Bearded, crowned[?] serpent [often identified as the Oracle Serpent Glykon or possibly the Serpent Agathodaemon]* standing erect left in multiple coils; ΜΑΡ-ΚΙΑΝΟΠΟΛΕΙ-ΤΩΝ around, with “ΤΩΝ” in exergue; “E” [ = 5 Assaria] in right field. 27 mm., 14.70 g. RPC [Roman Provincial Coinage] VIII Online 27865 [temporary ID number] (see https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/27865); AMNG I/I 1216 [Pick, Behrendt, Die antiken Münzen von Dacien und Moesien, Die antiken Münzen Nord-Griechenlands Vol. I/I (Berlin, 1898) at p. 327]; Varbanov 2101 [Varbanov, Ivan, Greek Imperial Coins And Their Values, Volume I: Dacia, Moesia Superior & Moesia Inferior (English Edition) (Bourgas, Bulgaria, 2005)]. Purchased Sep 2022 from Numidas (Lukas Kalchhauser), Vienna Austria; ex Numismatik Lanz München, Auction 120, 18 May 2004, Lot 494. *Translation taken from RPC VIII Online 27865. Note that the same type also exists with the slightly different obverse legend Μ ΙΟΥΛΙΟⳞ ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟⳞ ΚΑΙⳞΑΡ [ = “Marcus Iulius Philippus Caesar”], i.e., without the “ΑΥΓ” for “AVG.” See RPC VIII Online 27863 at https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/type/27873. Query whether the addition of the “ΑΥΓ” to the obverse legend on my type could possibly indicate that it was issued after the elevation of Philip II to Augustus by his father ca. AD 248, or whether that would have resulted in the Greek equivalent of AVGG, and the elimination of the “Caesar” altogether? **Dealers (such as the dealer who sold me this coin) often identify the coiled, bearded serpent on the reverse of this and similar Roman Provincial types as the bearded, human-headed, and/or fish-tailed Serpent God Glykon, for whom a popular cult was invented in the 2nd Century AD by the Greek prophet Alexander of Abonoteichos, who claimed that Glykon (apparently manifested by a hand puppet) was an incarnation of Asklepios. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycon (with the illustrations including a photo of RPC VIII Online 27863; see first fn.). See also the discussions of Glykon and coins portraying him at, e.g., https://www.cointalk.com/threads/an-interesting-representation-of-glykon.383315/; https://www.cointalk.com/threads/new-coins-featuring-glycon-the-sock-puppet-god.396206/#post-8331188; https://www.cointalk.com/threads/glykon-the-snake-cult-of-alexander-of-abounoteichos.333661/. However, neither RPC nor Pick identifies the serpent on this and similar types as being Glykon (I don’t have access to Varbanov). Moreover, the serpent on my coin has neither a humanoid head nor a fish tail (unlike some other numismatic representations of Glykon), nor any depiction of or reference to Asklepios. Therefore, the possibility remains that the serpent on this type could have been intended or perceived as the Serpent Agathodaemon, particularly given the association of the Agathodaemon with Serapis. See my thread discussing the Agathodaemon at https://www.cointalk.com/threads/finally-an-agathodaemon.383883/#post-7780217, including the following quotation from an article entitled “The Agathos Daimon in Greco-Egyptian Religion,” by João Pedro Feliciano, at https://www.academia.edu/27115429/The_Agathos_Daimon_in_Greco-Egyptian_religion: “[T]he Agathos Daimon (Greek: agathos daimôn; also agathodaimôn), the ‘good spirit,’ [was] a typically serpentine deity who originated as a genius loci in traditional Greek religion, and was also invoked during banquets. A variant of this deity was Zeus Meilichios (invoked in Orphic Hymn 73, to Zeus as the Daimon), an old serpentine aspect of Zeus associated with fortune. Roman religion had a cognate genius figure as well, evidenced by the traditional snakes found on Roman domestic shrines and lararia. The origins of the guardian serpent archetype may be traced to the fact that snakes could protect a house from vermin, such as rodents, and consequently became associated with guardian spirits early on; this notion of the beneficent ‘house snake’ is found in several different cultures.. . . . [Lengthy discussion of development of surrounding mythology omitted.] A rich number of statues and bas-reliefs of Agathodaimon have survived, through which we can obtain a fairly accurate picture of his attributes. In the available corpus of material, Agathodaimon is primarily depicted as a serpent (bearded in most instances), or as a snake with a human head, that of Serapis with whom he was associated (as a result of either of their common solar aspects, or the fact that Serapis was a form of Zeus, and thus as Meilichios, was an aspect or variant of Agathos Daimon). His serpentine form is occasionally depicted as that of a cobra, but most of the time it is a viper-like animal.” (Emphasis added.) 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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