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I have been offered some early English coins but I don't know if they are the genuine article or not, so I am looking for some assistance, please.

 

They are silver and weigh 0.061, and 0.051. The largest is 13mm.

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They should probably go in the medieval forum. But they're not genuine. 0.061g is impossibly light for silver and you have a die match.

I'm not even sure they're meant to be English as the style, legends and flans are wrong. But English pennies vaguely like this are more like 20mm and over 1g. It might be trying to be Aethelred or a Norse coin.

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I doubt they're real either.   As John Conduitt says above, the attempts at legends are reminiscent of some of the later Hiberno-Norse issues - Phase V, VI?   By the Phase V issues, the legends had degenerated into lines like you have above.

The weights can't be right - are the units grams?   Even the later light Hiberno-Norse coins were close to 1g.

ATB,
Aidan.

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10 hours ago, John Conduitt said:

They should probably go in the medieval forum. But they're not genuine. 0.061g is impossibly light for silver and you have a die match.

I'm not even sure they're meant to be English as the style, legends and flans are wrong. But English pennies vaguely like this are more like 20mm and over 1g. It might be trying to be Aethelred or a Norse coin.

 

3 hours ago, akeady said:

I doubt they're real either.   As John Conduitt says above, the attempts at legends are reminiscent of some of the later Hiberno-Norse issues - Phase V, VI?   By the Phase V issues, the legends had degenerated into lines like you have above.

The weights can't be right - are the units grams?   Even the later light Hiberno-Norse coins were close to 1g.

ATB,
Aidan.

Thank you @John Conduitt and @akeady.

Clearly I had doubts, hence the post. The seller claimed they were Hiberno-Manx 1030-34 but I have never heard of that description, and the weights looked 'light' to me too. The coins looked 'fresh' and the legends didn't read right.

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