Post Your Hammered World Coins

[JeandAcre]

Terrific thread, with a very cool range of stuff.  ...But I'm wondering, could this get 'cross-listed' in the Medieval category?  I get it that that has nothing to do with @Paddy54's initial intent --or posts; heck, I don't consider even the earliest Tudors 'medieval.'  But it is getting a lot of overlap.  Just a suggestion --and I for one have no idea whether it's even feasible.

Edited May 29, 2022 by JeandAcre
The usual, in this case serial ypos. --That's, 'typos.'

[UkrainiiVityaz]

 

My oldest dated Christian era coin - a 1508 denar from Hungary.

[quant.geek]

A not-so-frequently encountered coin...

 

Portuguese Inda, Goa: Maria I and Pedro III 1786 ½ Pardao (KM#189, Gomes-06.04)

Obv: Conjoined heads of Maria I and Pedro III facing right, date below
Rev: Crowned arms

 

[JeandAcre]

4 hours ago, UkrainiiVityaz said:

 

My oldest dated Christian era coin - a 1508 denar from Hungary.

@UkrainiiVityaz, I've never seen an example that early, in that stellar a condition.  ...And the heraldry on the reverse is magnificent; I could only wish that someone could 'deconstruct' it, quartering by quartering.  --It won't be me!

[JeandAcre]

40 minutes ago, quant.geek said:

A not-so-frequently encountered coin...

 

Portuguese Inda, Goa: Maria I and Pedro III 1786 ½ Pardao (KM#189, Gomes-06.04)

Obv: Conjoined heads of Maria I and Pedro III facing right, date below
Rev: Crowned arms

 

@quant.geek, that's the stuff!!!  I'm needing it how various colonial contexts perpetuated hammered coinage into the 18th century, never  mind this late.

[quant.geek]

Hammered colonial coins goes even later to the middle of the 19th century in India. For instance,

Danish India, Tranquebar: Frederik VI (1808-1839) AE 4 Cash (UBJ-381; Gray-159; KM#159.1)

Obv: Crowned FR monogram with VI between and below
Rev: Value and date; NGC graded AU58-BR

[robinjojo]

On 5/26/2022 at 5:26 AM, noname said:

I'm primarily a Roman imperial collector, but I have in the last year, started delving into English hammered coinage, here's my two favorite English hammered coins in my collection.

Aethelred II 

AR Penny

1009-1016 CE

London mint, Aethelric moneyer

Spink 1154

18.5mm, .88 grams

 

Henry VI

AR Groat

Calais mint

1422-1427 CE

27mm, 3.65 grams

Spink 1836

 

Lovely examples!

[robinjojo]

Hammered coinage has been a subject near and dear to me for so many years, going back to the early 1980s, when my primary focus was on cob coinage, but other hammered coinage as well.

Where to begin?  Well, how about a coin photographed today, a rijksdaaler, Holland, 1592, with William the Silent on the obverse.  Purchased from Karl Stephens.

 

Then there is this high grade example of relatively common lion daalder, 1589, Holland.  This coin came from a hoard reportedly found in Flanders back in the late 70s or early 80s.

 

Finally, for the Dutch coins, here's a double ducaton, Holland, 1673.

 

For England, let's start with Henry VIII, a debased groat of his ("Old Copper Nose"), Bristol Mint, 5th coinage.

 

Followed by his daughter from Anne Boleyn, Elizabeth I, crown, mint mark 1, 1602.

 

By far the largest hammer coin that I own is this Declaration Oxford half pound of Charles I, 1643.

 

Charles I, executed in 1649, following the English Civil War, was succeed by Oliver Cromwell and the Commonwealth of England, which lasted until the restoration of the Stuarts in 1660.

 

Moving to Spanish mainland and colonial hammered coinage, here an 8 escudos, 1738 N, of Lima.

 

Here's a shield 8 reales cob from Potosi, ex Mel Fisher Research Collection, #208 (so I am told - no certificate) 1617 M.  Note the date on the reverse running from about 7 o'clock to just under 9 o'clock instead of the normal 10 o'clock to about 12 o'clock.

 

Finally, here's an 8 reales cob from Bogota, a beautiful coin, but the last digit of the date is muddled due to the doubling.  I think it is 1665 or 1664.

 

There are some really nice hammered coins in this thread, and I hope to post more in the future.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[UkrainiiVityaz]

16 hours ago, JeandAcre said:

@UkrainiiVityaz, I've never seen an example that early, in that stellar a condition.  ...And the heraldry on the reverse is magnificent; I could only wish that someone could 'deconstruct' it, quartering by quartering.  --It won't be me!

I've owned it a long time, but they are fairly inexpensive and I think it is possible to get some slightly earlier examples.

[Qcumbor]

Some fabulous coins along this thread

It's time for Jean II le Bon (the good) I guess, with a "gros à la couronne" and a piedfort of a similar issue :

 

Jean II le bon - Gros à la couronne - 22/08/1358

Avers : Légende intérieure : + IOHANNES - DEI : GRA (deux rosettes superposées entre DEI et GRA)

Légende extérieure : [+ BNEDICTV: SIT: NO]ME: DNI: NRI: DEI [: IHV: XPI]. Croix latine fleurdelisée et recroisetée, coupant la légende en bas.

Revers :  FRANCO/RV: REX. sous une couronne ; bordure extérieure de douze lis.

30,4 mm - 4,36 gr

Ref : Ciani # 397, Dy # 305

 

Jean II le bon - Piéfort du gros à la couronne - 16/11/1358

Avers : Légende intérieure : + IOHAN[NES] - DEI: GRA°

Légende extérieure : [+ BNEDICTV: SIT: NOME: DNI: NRI: DEI: IHV: XPI]. Croix latine fleurdelisée et recroisetée, coupant la légende en bas.

Revers :  [FRANCO/RV: R]EX. sous une couronne ; bordure extérieure de douze lis.

27,5 mm - 14,71 gr

Ref : voir Ciani # 399, Dy # 305B

 

Q

[Ryro]

Wonderful thread topic @Paddy54!!!

Clearly, looking at the stunners in this thread, I need to up my Elizabeth game...

though, it was a gift from my pops, so maybe not. 

Richard the third became very popular (🤑) a just under a decade ago due to the find of his remains in August of 2012 *sadly, this coin was purchased after 2012😖:

 

 

[Severus Alexander]

Charlemagne AR denier, Melle:

 

Ireland: Sihtric III Olafsson (Silkbeard) (995-1036), Dublin mint penny:

 

FRANCE: Louis VII Le Jeune (the Younger) (1137-1180), AR denier. Bourges:

 

ITALY, Milan: Frederick I Barbarossa or Henry VI (1152-1197), denaro scodellato:

 

ITALY, Florence, Republic c. 1237-1250, fiorino vecchio:

 

Papal States: Leo X (1513-1521), AR giuilio:

 

Wow @robinjojo, I didn't know you had such an amazing collection of English hammered... that half pound is incredible!  What's the diameter and weight of that coin?

Edited June 1, 2022 by Severus Alexander

[Nap]

Pretty much all my coins are hammered.

Here are a few famous Brits:

William the Conqueror

 

 

Richard III

 

 

Henry VIII

[Egry]

I’m not sure if this is hammered or not, the original was milled but this version of its life may have been… your guess is as good as mine. 
 

 

 

Edited June 1, 2022 by Egry

[Egry]

On 5/31/2022 at 4:31 PM, robinjojo said:

Hammered coinage has been a subject near and dear to me for so many years, going back to the early 1980s, when my primary focus was on cob coinage, but other hammered coinage as well.

Where to begin?  Well, how about a coin photographed today, a rijksdaaler, Holland, 1592, with William the Silent on the obverse.  Purchased from Karl Stephens.

 

Then there is this high grade example of relatively common lion daalder, 1589, Holland.  This coin came from a hoard reportedly found in Flanders back in the late 70s or early 80s.

 

Finally, for the Dutch coins, here's a double ducaton, Holland, 1673.

 

For England, let's start with Henry VIII, a debased groat of his ("Old Copper Nose"), Bristol Mint, 5th coinage.

 

Followed by his daughter from Anne Boleyn, Elizabeth I, crown, mint mark 1, 1602.

 

By far the largest hammer coin that I own is this Declaration Oxford half pound of Charles I, 1643.

 

Charles I, executed in 1649, following the English Civil War, was succeed by Oliver Cromwell and the Commonwealth of England, which lasted until the restoration of the Stuarts in 1660.

 

Moving to Spanish mainland and colonial hammered coinage, here an 8 escudos, 1738 N, of Lima.

 

Here's a shield 8 reales cob from Potosi, ex Mel Fisher Research Collection, #208 (so I am told - no certificate) 1617 M.  Note the date on the reverse running from about 7 o'clock to just under 9 o'clock instead of the normal 10 o'clock to about 12 o'clock.

 

Finally, here's an 8 reales cob from Bogota, a beautiful coin, but the last digit of the date is muddled due to the doubling.  I think it is 1665 or 1664.

 

There are some really nice hammered coins in this thread, and I hope to post more in the future.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow, that 8 escudo…. Boom! In my opinion you have won the thread with that banger. 

[DonnaML]

Here are a few:

Henry VIII AR Halfgroat, Second Coinage, S.2343. Dix Noonan Webb Auction 8 Mar 2022, Lot 190.

Edward VI AR Sixpence, Third Period, Fine Issue, S.2483. Dix Noonan Webb Auction 8 Mar 2022, Lot 193.

England, Elizabeth I, AR Sixpence 1582. Obv. Crowned Bust left, Tudor Rose behind, all within inner circle with legend around, ELIZAB.D.G.ANG.FR.ET.HIB.REGINA [Elizabeth by the Grace of God Queen of England France and Ireland] / Rev. Quartered shield over long cross fourchée with divided date above, all within inner circle with legend around, Mintmark Sword at 12 o'clock, POSVI DEV.AD IVTORE M·MEV· [I have made God my helper] 15 - 82. Spink 2572 (ill.). 25 mm., 3.2 g.




 

[Qcumbor]

One of the highlights in my french section coins

 

Jean II le bon - Florin d'or - 1358 (Montpellier) -

Avers : + FRA• - •NTIA•   Grande fleur de lis épanouie.

Revers : S•IOHA - NNES•B•(heaume)•   Saint Jean-Baptiste debout de face, nimbé, vêtu d'une peau de mouton, tenant un sceptre cruciforme de la main gauche et bénissant de la main droite.

20 mm - 3,47 gr

Ref : Ciani # 362, Dy # 346

Q

[Qcumbor]

13 hours ago, Severus Alexander said:

FRANCE: Louis VII Le Jeune (the Younger) (1137-1180), AR denier. Bourges:

 

I'm currently reading a novel about the life of Alienor d'Aquitaine who was one of the greatest character of her time, being queen of France before she became queen of England. Her first husband was Louis VII, and I have yet to get a coin of his

Good catch @Severus Alexander

Q

[Severus Alexander]

52 minutes ago, Qcumbor said:

I'm currently reading a novel about the life of Alienor d'Aquitaine who was one of the greatest character of her time, being queen of France before she became queen of England. Her first husband was Louis VII, and I have yet to get a coin of his

Good catch @Severus Alexander

Q

I'd love to know the title of the book - if the French isn't too literary/advanced it might help me brush up before meeting you. 😄  Here's my (maybe) Eleanor:

ANGLO-GALLIC, Aquitaine: Eleanor of Aquitaine (1137-1204), AR Denier. Bordeaux
Obv: DVCISIT (horizontal S), m/ ++/ Λ in three lines 
Rev: + AGVITANIE, cross pattée

If the legend means Ducissa Itervm (“Duchess again”) this issue would make sense post 1185, when Henry II and Eleanor reclaimed Aquitaine in her name from Philip II of France. It must be admitted, however, that its assignment to Eleanor is not secure. (Duplessy gives it to her father, Guillaume X.)

My thanks are due to @Orfew on both of these coins!

Edited June 1, 2022 by Severus Alexander

[robinjojo]

17 minutes ago, Severus Alexander said:

I'd love to know the title of the book - if the French isn't too literary/advanced it might help me brush up before meeting you. 😄  Here's my (maybe) Eleanor:

ANGLO-GALLIC, Aquitaine: Eleanor of Aquitaine (1137-1204), AR Denier. Bordeaux
Obv: DVCISIT (horizontal S), m/ ++/ Λ in three lines 
Rev: + AGVITANIE, cross pattée

If the legend means Ducissa Itervm (“Duchess again”) this issue would make sense post 1185, when Henry II and Eleanor reclaimed Aquitaine in her name from Philip II of France. It must be admitted, however, that its assignment to Eleanor is not secure. (Duplessy gives it to her father, Guillaume X.)

My thanks are due to @Orfew on both of these coins!

Have you seen A Lion in Winter?   Definitely worth viewing!

[ominus1]

..i was thinkin' i didn't have any of these but i reckon i do..some collectors a long while back were discussing when hammering ceased and machine (wikiwerks?) production started..

 

Blanc of Louis Xl,(1461-1483) 26mm, 2.61gms

[Dafydd]

Some fabulous coins here!

Here are a few of mine that I am fond of, the first being Richard the Lionheart.

 

 

 

GREAT BRITAIN, Henri VI, 1st reign (1422-1461), AR groat, 1427-1430, Calais. Rosette-mascle issue. D / B. yard. of f. in a polylobe. Small rhombus in two angles. R / VIL-?LA?- CALI-SIE * Long pattée cross cutting the legends, confined to four groups of three globules. S. 1860; N. 1446; Whitton 16b. 3.77g Rare Large flan. 

 

Henry VIII. Groat 1509 - 1547. Spink 2337A. 

 

 

England. Aethelred II. 978-1016. AR Penny (20mm, 1.42g, 12h). Crux type (BMC iiia, Hild. C). London mint; moneyer Æthelred. Struck circa 991-997. + ÆDELRED REX ?NGLOX, bareheaded draped bust left with scepter in front / +ÆDERED M#O LVN, short cross voided, C R V X in angles. BEH 2205; North 770; SCBI 7 (Copenhagen), 708; SCBI 65 (Norway), 255.

[The Eidolon]

How does one tell if a coin from the 1600-1700s is hammered?  There are a few where I'm honestly not sure.

For example, this Hamm 1719 3 Pfennig is oddly oval-shaped and looks hammered to me, but my references don't list hammered or minted.

For older stuff like this group of Portuguese Ceitils of Manuel I (1495-1521) I assume they would have to be hammered because of the time period.

[Alegandron]

3 hours ago, Qcumbor said:

I'm currently reading a novel about the life of Alienor d'Aquitaine who was one of the greatest character of her time, being queen of France before she became queen of England. Her first husband was Louis VII, and I have yet to get a coin of his

Good catch @Severus Alexander

Q

I watched a Documentary on here recently, I believe on BBC, unbelievable person!  Read more on Wikipedia, will probly find a book on her.

[ominus1]

3 hours ago, Alegandron said:

Louis VII, and I have yet to get a coin of his

..i have 2 of ole 7 Lou  😄