TheTrachyEnjoyer Posted January 12, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 I have decided to pay the $125 and attend today. I will in the area starting around 11 or so. I am wearing a brown leather jacket and have a black backpack on if anyone wants to say hi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted January 12, 2023 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted January 12, 2023 I hope to arrive between 12 and 1 pm. I will be the little old lady with a green sweater and a name tag that says "Donna"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted January 12, 2023 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) On 1/9/2023 at 8:21 PM, Deinomenid said: @Cordobaand @DonnaML re when is Nomos live etc, this is what they emailed me. Yes, once again, in fact, for the fifteenth time, Nomos will be presenting a Fixed Price List containing a very select group of Celtic, Greek, Roman and Byzantine Coins at the NYINC in January! These fine coins, including many pieces from famous collections of the past, like those of BCD, C. S. Bement, V. M. Brand, Bryn Mawr College, R. Burrage, Chandon de Briailles, Fenerly Bey, M. Lafaille, R. C. Lockett, V. Luneau, E. Milas, Sir H. Montagu, H. de Nanteuil, R. Peyrefitte, G. Philipsen, A. Rhousopoulos, Vicomte L. de Sartiges, E. P. Warren, Consul E. Weber, and Sir H. Weber, are all very worthy of going into one of the great collections of today! This list will go live on our website beginning at 10AM EST-4PM/16 CET on 12 January, when they will also be on display at our Table 307 at the NYINC. Coins be ordered in person or through our webshop portal. The Nomos Fixed Price List, with 100 lots, went live a little more than two hours ago. I think the prices are generally quite high, but not as astonishingly high as the Leu FPL. Although there are a few that I don't really understand, such as Lots 87 (a Divus Antoninus Pius sestertius with a huge flan crack for CHF 5,000) and 88 (a Philip II antoninianus with a not-very-interesting Felicitas reverse for CHF 500). 28 of the 100 have sold already (not those two), so obviously there are plenty of people who view the prices as generally reasonable. I bought one lot (I won't identify it until I actually have it) and will ask if I can pick it up when I'm there. Even though when I paid online, I was charged for shipping and insurance! (The only other option given was to pick the lot up at the Nomos office in Switzerland, which entailed a rather hefty VAT charge.) Hopefully they'll let me take it with me, and refund the CHF 35 I was charged for shipping and insurance. Edited January 12, 2023 by DonnaML 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cordoba Posted January 12, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 I was pretty interested in a bactrian coin Nomos had, but I don't really want to buy it because I know it came from a Roma auction in July lol. Their prices are way better than leus tho 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AETHER Posted January 12, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 Any picture of the venue and dealer tables anyone is taking? Would love to see some! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaniard Posted January 12, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) If anyone sees any cheap Kashmir hindu coins grab them for me please😉 Edited January 12, 2023 by Spaniard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 12, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 I agree with @DonnaML that Nomos was not as bad as Leu in $ cost - and they had a good selection of decent Greek coins. They were selling like hotcakes when I was there. What was interesting to me when at their table was how they coped with people there wanting to buy a given coin at the same time as someone online trying to do the same! I greatly appreciate the advice of Forum members to go today. It was well-worth the extra cost to me (in entrance fee) and if this was a quiet day then I’d hate to see it busy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 12, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 hours ago, AETHER said: Any picture of the venue and dealer tables anyone is taking? Would love to see some! Having seen a dealer get very angry at someone taking general photos I didn’t dare. One of my sons did get to hold an amazing Colosseum coin though, courtesy of Aaron Berk. He let him take the photo! 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cazador Posted January 12, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Cordoba said: I was pretty interested in a bactrian coin Nomos had, but I don't really want to buy it because I know it came from a Roma auction in July lol. Their prices are way better than leus tho Hahaha, i looked at that one too but thought at $2.5K it was overpriced 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cazador Posted January 12, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, Deinomenid said: I agree with @DonnaML that Nomos was not as bad as Leu in $ cost - and they had a good selection of decent Greek coins. They were selling like hotcakes when I was there. What was interesting to me when at their table was how they coped with people there wanting to buy a given coin at the same time as someone online trying to do the same! I greatly appreciate the advice of Forum members to go today. It was well-worth the extra cost to me (in entrance fee) and if this was a quiet day then I’d hate to see it busy! 12 minutes ago, Deinomenid said: Having seen a dealer get very angry at someone taking general photos I didn’t dare. One of my sons did get to hold an amazing Colosseum coin though, courtesy of Aaron Berk. He let him take the photo! Have you purchased anything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 12, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 12, 2023 Aside from in my dreams the Colosseum coin (where my boy may or may not have misunderstood the price which was quoted as xyz rather than xyz thousand as the former!) a couple of unusual Syracusean coins. NAC has an incredible Sicilian for sale at 200k. Well worth a drool if you are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AETHER Posted January 12, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 12, 2023 26 minutes ago, Deinomenid said: Having seen a dealer get very angry at someone taking general photos I didn’t dare. One of my sons did get to hold an amazing Colosseum coin though, courtesy of Aaron Berk. He let him take the photo! Awesome! Aaron is the man, seen this vespasian on his channel. Ty for the pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AncientJoe Posted January 13, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Deinomenid said: Aside from in my dreams the Colosseum coin (where my boy may or may not have misunderstood the price which was quoted as xyz rather than xyz thousand as the former!) a couple of unusual Syracusean coins. NAC has an incredible Sicilian for sale at 200k. Well worth a drool if you are there. Did you happen to note what type/example this was - it sounds like quite the coin to just be available in stock. I'm dealing with a series of delayed flights so I won't be there until tomorrow. Edited January 13, 2023 by AncientJoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailathacl Posted January 13, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Deinomenid said: Having seen a dealer get very angry at someone taking general photos I didn’t dare. Can someone explain why a dealer would find taking pictures of a bourse floor to be an issue? Seems unreasonable but maybe I’m missing something. (I’m talking general scene photos, not hovering over or blocking of focusing on the dealer or his case — that merits asking permission.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 13, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, AncientJoe said: Did you happen to note what type/example this was - it sounds like quite the coin to just be available in stock. I'm dealing with a series of delayed flights so I won't be there until tomorrow. @AncientJoeyes it was the one that was in their recent buy or bid catalog. Why, I don’t know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 13, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Bailathacl said: Can someone explain why a dealer would find taking pictures of a bourse floor to be an issue? Seems unreasonable but maybe I’m missing something. (I’m talking general scene photos, not hovering over or blocking of focusing on the dealer or his case — that merits asking permission.) This guy was saying it was a security risk because someone could zoom in and see what he had for sale and target him for theft. There was quite a debate going on about this view. Dealer said he had stock there that was not shown online etc… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailathacl Posted January 13, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 13, 2023 On one hand I get it — showing material at shows does involve real security risks. On the other hand, if someone wanted to get a sense of what this or any dealer had, they could walk into the show and get a REALLY good look. I’m not sure what the extra risk from a photo once you’ve chosen to set up in a public space. Are other dealers this sensitive about the issue? (Definitely and respectfully don’t want to be getting dealers angry.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted January 13, 2023 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Deinomenid said: This guy was saying it was a security risk because someone could zoom in and see what he had for sale and target him for theft. There was quite a debate going on about this view. Dealer said he had stock there that was not shown online etc… This doesn't make much sense to me. Unless someone is directly photographing a tray, a photo of the bourse or part of it, intended to show the crowd -- especially a long shot from the end of an aisle or one side of the room -- isn't going to show individual coins no matter how much someone zooms in. The angle would be all wrong. Look at @savitale's photos in the other thread. Edited January 13, 2023 by DonnaML 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 13, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 Agreed! It made little sense to most people. Though the Chicago ANA coin theft incident was being used as an attempt to rally to his cause too. Maybe he was affected there. Who knows. All I wanted to do was look at coins 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfp7375 Posted January 13, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Deinomenid said: Agreed! It made little sense to most people. Though the Chicago ANA coin theft incident was being used as an attempt to rally to his cause too. Maybe he was affected there. Who knows. All I wanted to do was look at coins 😀 I wasn't aware of a theft incident at Chicago ANA - I was at that show on Saturday but didn't hear anything. What happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 13, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 @jfp7375I don't know what he was referring to but assume this- Illinois police are investigating the theft of a display case filled with Rolex watches and coins worth an estimated $500,000 US during the recent American Numismatic Association (ANA) World’s Fair of Money. On Aug. 15, during the show’s setup in the Chicago suburb of Rosemont, Ill., several people without badges stole a dealer’s display case. As coin shows returned and coin stores reopened following the pandemic, organized groups have targeted U.S. dealers with thefts resulting in substantial losses. “The ANA’s board of governors will convene a series of special meetings to conduct a thorough evaluation of the association’s security protocols and take steps to address the emerging threats to the numismatic community’s property and physical safety,” said ANA President Ralph Ross. “We look forward to collaborating with law enforcement, security specialists and members of our numismatic community for purposes of minimizing risks in our community.” To see a full list of the stolen watches and coins, visit the Numismatic Crime Information Center website at bit.ly/3xkAY5c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 17, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2023 @DonnaML Apparently there was a theft there. $100k of stuff taken. Sounds a bit odd, and not related to photos I'm sure. https://nypost.com/2023/01/16/rare-coin-dealers-100k-collection-stolen-at-nyc-convention/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deinomenid Posted January 17, 2023 · Supporter Share Posted January 17, 2023 That quote is from this website fwiw. The victim runs a business based in Arizona that bills itself as “a leading buyer and seller of World, ancient and Mexican and Latin American coins and currency,” according to its website. https://worldnumismatics.com/about-us/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benefactor DonnaML Posted January 17, 2023 · Benefactor Author Benefactor Share Posted January 17, 2023 59 minutes ago, Deinomenid said: @DonnaML Apparently there was a theft there. $100k of stuff taken. Sounds a bit odd, and not related to photos I'm sure. https://nypost.com/2023/01/16/rare-coin-dealers-100k-collection-stolen-at-nyc-convention/ Their Table was no. 506, in the Gallery right next to the top of the stairs from the lobby, across from CNG's tables. As I recall, there was a security guard right at the top of the stairs all afternoon on Thursday. If this dealer really departed and their inventory was stolen before the show closed at 7 pm, how is it possible that nobody noticed the thief? On the other hand, if they really didn't leave until after the show closed at 7, I find it hard to believe that there was still public access to the stairs, without any security. It's all a mystery to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTrachyEnjoyer Posted January 17, 2023 · Member Share Posted January 17, 2023 11 hours ago, DonnaML said: Their Table was no. 506, in the Gallery right next to the top of the stairs from the lobby, across from CNG's tables. As I recall, there was a security guard right at the top of the stairs all afternoon on Thursday. If this dealer really departed and their inventory was stolen before the show closed at 7 pm, how is it possible that nobody noticed the thief? On the other hand, if they really didn't leave until after the show closed at 7, I find it hard to believe that there was still public access to the stairs, without any security. It's all a mystery to me Wow. I actually fingerprints being taken at that booth. I couldn’t figure out why but that makes sense now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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