leeshiel Posted November 25, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 25, 2022 (edited) A coin of Philip IV, PHILIP IV "THE FAIR" who reigned from 1285 to 1314 AD. The obverse depicts a large Templar Cross: + PHILIPPVS. REX ; LÉGENDE EXTÉRIEURE : + BHDICTV: SIT: HOME: DHI: NRI: DEI: IHV. XPI, (Philip the king; blessed be the name of our Lord Jesus Christ) The reverse of the coin displays a Châtel tournois topped with a croisette cutting the legend at 12 o'clock; outer border of twelve lilies in oves., the legend reads: TVRONVS (TRIANGLE) CIVIS. (City of Tours) The coin has been made into a dress hook so it's classed as treasure, Theoretically it's a artefact not a coin, In the late thirteenth and early fourteenth centuries a trend for coins fashioned into dress hooks became popular I use the term dress hook rather than brooch, as the attachments soldered onto surviving examples consist of a loop and hook. The loop is clearly intended to be sewn onto a garment with the hook used to secure part of an item of clothing to another. The choice of coins used show a marked preference for larger module pieces; initially these were Edward I’s groats but as the denomination was withdrawn from the English currency similar size gros from the continent were substituted and used instead. In a handful of cases pennies have been used. The method of conversion sees the cross side gilded (obverse on English coins, reverse on French coins) and the soldering of either a single or double piece loop and hook to the opposing face. Edited November 25, 2022 by leeshiel 12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth77 Posted November 25, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 25, 2022 This is probably Duplessy 213c and the symbol separatif is probably trefle not triangle. The L in the obverse legend is also decorated with a globule which is recorded by Duplessy as 213b. Both variations date to 1305. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 25, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, seth77 said: This is probably Duplessy 213c and the symbol separatif is probably trefle not triangle. The L in the obverse legend is also decorated with a globule which is recorded by Duplessy as 213b. Both variations date to 1305. Many thanks it's now in the hands of the British museum, as a coin it's nothing made into a dress hook in this condition it's very rare. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominus1 Posted November 25, 2022 · Patron Share Posted November 25, 2022 ...i have a denier of ole Phil iv in my Louie's collection.....it holds the place of his son Louis X..and i hadda get one o him cause he kilt Jacques DeMolay and the Knights Templar.. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qcumbor Posted November 25, 2022 · Supporter Share Posted November 25, 2022 Nice and interesting artefact. Here's my example of a Philip IV gros tournois Philippe IV "Le Bel" (1285-1314) - Gros tournois à l'O rond - Atelier de Lille ? (2 petits points a droite du lis superieur du revers) + BNDICTV SIT NOME DNI NRI DEI IhV XPI dans le cercle exterieur, +PHILIPPVS REX dans le cercle interieur, croix au centre TVRONVS CIVIS + dans le cercle interieur, chatel tournois au centre, bordure de douze fleurs de lis a l'exterieur 4.13 gr Ref : Ciani # 203 Q 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romismatist Posted November 26, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 26, 2022 @leeshieldid you find this with your metal detector as well? Nice artefact! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeshiel Posted November 26, 2022 · Member Author Share Posted November 26, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Romismatist said: @leeshieldid you find this with your metal detector as well? Nice artefact! Thanks, yes it was i dont buy anything, The crown will keep this one it will be the best example on the PAS database. https://finds.org.uk/ Edited November 26, 2022 by leeshiel 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldhoopster Posted November 26, 2022 · Member Share Posted November 26, 2022 20 hours ago, Qcumbor said: Nice and interesting artefact. Here's my example of a Philip IV gros tournois Philippe IV "Le Bel" (1285-1314) - Gros tournois à l'O rond - Atelier de Lille ? (2 petits points a droite du lis superieur du revers) + BNDICTV SIT NOME DNI NRI DEI IhV XPI dans le cercle exterieur, +PHILIPPVS REX dans le cercle interieur, croix au centre TVRONVS CIVIS + dans le cercle interieur, chatel tournois au centre, bordure de douze fleurs de lis a l'exterieur 4.13 gr Ref : Ciani # 203 Q Great looking coin. Thanks for sharing. Now I can get back to my ratty, low end, poor condition, medieval collection ☠️ 😁 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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