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I enjoy the History of Alexander III Makedon, called The Great.  However, I am not worried that there will beau coup postings of that incredible character! (Even my Avatar name is a derivative from Alexander III)

I would like to have a thread focused on the Makedonwn Kings leading up to Alexander... listing the Kings of Makedon:

Here is an early King of Makedon... of the Argead Dynasty (808 - 305 BCE)... Starting with Caranus and ending with Philip III / Alexander IV... yeah, 500 years of those guys!

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Makedon

Alexander I 498-454 BCE

AR Obol 10mm 0.75g

 

Horse standing right,

Quadripartite incuse square

Seller's attribution:  Kingdom of Macedonia, Alexander I, Obol, VF(30-35), Silver, SNG ANS:32,

 

PLEASE POST YOUR MAKEDONIAN / MACEDONIAN KINGS PRIOR to ALEXANDER III The Great.

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Great idea! A sub collection that's as rewarding as it is hard to acquire. 

Though, first I'll share this ex @Bing in hopes that he realizes that site hasn't done anything for him. His friends from that site have. Nobody over here cares about his politics, nor anyones. Over there it's about being part of that party that the sites owner and mod are. Just cause he may share views with them doesn't mean they're his friends. We are. 

Thanks for the cool coin old pal:

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MACEDONIA, Eion

AR Trihemiobol

OBVERSE: Goose standing right, head reverted, lizard downward to left above

REVERSE: Quadripartite incuse square

Struck at Eion, 460-400 BC

.66g, 11mm

SNG ANS 273-284ʺ

Former CT pal Bing

 

 

Alexander I:

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Alexander I

 

498-454 BC. AR Tetrobol (15mm, 1.97 g). Horse right / Quadripartite incuse square. Raymond pl. V, b; SNG ANS 20. 

Ex Savoca

Raymond concluded that this rare issue was most likely struck before Alexander's escape from Persian influence in 480/79, yet the fine style of the incuse is unlike his earliest coinage. Thus, she was unable to place it securely within the established chronology of Alexander's coinage. Likewise the low weight - which corresponds precisely to the weight of a triobol on the Macedonian octadrachm standard (1.83 g) - of this and the other fractional issues she illustrates leaves little room for a certain identification of the denomination. This coin could be a very light-weight tetrobol or it could equally be a triobol. Because of the significant wear and the likelihood of internal crystallization of this piece, we have called it a tetrobol, assuming that when it was freshly minted it was probably close to the theoretical weight of 2.18 g on the Macedonian tetradrachm standard.

 

 

 Perdikkas II:

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Perdikkas II

451-413 B.C. Æ 18 (19 mm, 2.94 g, 11 h). Head of Herakles right, wearing lion's skin headdress / ΠEPΔIK-KA, Lion standing right, breaking spear with mouth and foreleg. SNG Alpha Bank 240; SNG ANS 114. Purchased from Savoca Oct 2021

 

 

Amyntas III

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Amyntas III

 

 

(393-369 BCE). 3.42 g.

17 mm. Tetrachalkon. Aigai or Pella.

Obv: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin.

Rev: AMYNTA. 

Eagle standing right, grasping serpent with talons.

SNG Alpha Bank 214-230.

Very fine.

Ex-Savoca. *In ATG frame

 

 Perdikkas III

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Perdikkas III, (365-359 B.C.), AE 18, tetrachalkon, (18 mm, 6.31 g), Aigai mint, obv. head of Herakles in lion skin to right, rev. lion standing right, breaking a javelin with its jaws, above **PERDIK*, (S.1515, Westermark, Kraay-Morkholm Essay, Remarks 47, SNG ANS 114, BMC 3, HGC 3, 839 [R]) (illustrated) Nearly VF

 

 

And my latest Philip II:

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Philip II

(359-336 BC). AR Hemidrachm. Amphipolis.

Obv: Diademed head of Apollo right.

Rev: ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ.

Rider on horse rearing right. Control: Below horse, Grain (?).

Cf. Le Rider pl. 46, 28 var.(branch.)

Condition: Fine.

Weight: 2.41 g.

Diameter: 13.87 mm

Purchased from Bucephalus April 2022

 

 

some more result Macedon:

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Macedon, Tragilos,

 

 

450-400 BC. AR Hemiobol (7.4mm, 0.28g, 6h). Grain ear. R/ Quadripartite incuse square; T-P-A-I in quarters. SNG ANS 903; SNG Copenhagen 446. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Ryro said:

Great idea! A sub collection that's as rewarding as it is hard to acquire. 

Though, first I'll share this ex @Bing in hopes that he realizes that site hasn't done anything for him. His friends from that site have. Nobody over here cares about his politics, nor anyones. Over there it's about being part of that party that the sites owner and mod are. Just cause he may share views with them doesn't mean they're his friends. We are. 

Thanks for the cool coin old pal:

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Alexander I:

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Perdikkas II:

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Amyntas III

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Perdikkas III

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And my latest Philip II:

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some more result Macedon:

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Yeah, I miss @Bing... would enjoy his posts HERE.  CT folks seem to notice not as many postings in Ancients area.

Your coins are super, @Ryro!  Nice sub-set !  I have a few more that I will post.  Fun stuff!

OH!  And I REALLY like that MONKEY!  😄

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Amyntas III

AR fourrée stater 393-369 BC

Aigai or Pella

Head of Herakles right wearing lion's skin headdress / horse standing right in linear square

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I do have the DAD of the two II’s (Phil and Alex)… he was a THREE…

A Three, who was Father to 2 II’s:
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MAKEDON
Amyntas III 393-369 BCE
Father of Philip II and of Alexander II…

GRANDFATHER of Alexander III the Great
AE 17mm, 3.2g
Obv: Head of Herakles r, wearing lion skin
Rev: AMUNTA, Eagle devouring serpant
Ref: SNG ANS 100ff
Ex: @Blake Davis

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I got a Perdikkas III, another son of Amyntas III which this coin was overstruck on

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Perdikkas III, 365-359 BC. Head of Herakles right wearing lion skin / lion standing right breaking javelin with its jaws. Overstruck on bronze of Amyntas III

 

 

This next coin I'm unsure of - It looks to me to be the core of an Archelaus I fourrée stater, though I cannot find any examples online of this coin being a fourrée. 

413-399 BC

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Archelaus was rather distantly related to Alexander III, with Alexander III being related to him through his great-great-great grandfather, Alexander I

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Alexander I AR Light Tetrobol

498-454

Horse walking right, helmet within linear square

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Alexander I Ar Oktodrachm Aigai 490=480/479 BC Obv. Horseman standing right behind horse. Rv. Quadripartite incuse square. HGC 753 28.43 grms 32 mm Photo by W. HansenalexanderIocto2.thumb.jpg.4a5603ce1e08aeb5d5785052d3af2edd.jpgFor collectors of the coinage of the Macedonian Kingdom this is where the fun begins. At one time this type was considered to have been issued by the Thraco-Macedonian tribe the Bisaltae. Subsequent research appears to have made this type one of the earliest issues of Alexander I. This individual has to be one of the slipperiest characters in Macedonian history. It seems somehow appropriate that some of his coinage is equally opaque.

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KINGS OF MACEDON. Philip II, 359-336 BC.
Æ18, 6.7g, 2h; struck 359-336 BC.
Obv.: Head of Apollo left, hair bound in tainia.
Rev.: ΦIΛIΠΠOY;Youth on horseback galloping left, head of lion right below.
Ref.: SNG ANS 872-4; SNG Alpha Bank 371-3.
Ex:  @John Anthony JAZ Numismatics Auction 200

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Does this count? It was struck in the style of Philip II a decade or two after his death.jMXCWK4.jpeg

Kings of Macedon, Philip II AR tetradrachm 

359-336  BC
Minted at Amphipolis
Struck Circa 323-315 under Antipater, Polyperchon, or Kassander. 
Obverse: Laureate head of Zeus right.
Reverse: ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ; Youth, holding palm frond, riding horse right; below, trident-head control mark to right.
References: Le Rider, Pl. 31, 213; Le Rider 46/1; SNG ANS 691.
24mm; 14.48g

 

 

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Here are the three leading up to Alexander III.

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Makedonien Bronze Alexander II
370-367 BCE
AE 16.00 mm 4.80 g
SNG Alpha Bank 236
Male head right, wearing taenia / Horse galloping right.
Ex Sebastian Sänn

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Kings of Macedon, Perdikkas III (365-359 BC).
AE 17.5mm, 3.21g, 12h
Head of Herakles r., wearing lion skin. R/ Lion standing r., breaking javelin with its jaws.
SNG ANS 114; SNG Alpha Bank 240; HGC 3.1, 839.
Ex London Ancient Coins

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Macedonian Kingdom, Philip II AR Tetradrachm.
Pella mint, ca 354-349 BC.
22-24 mm., 13.68g.
Laureate head of Zeus right / ΦIΛΛIΠOY, Philip II, diademed & in kausia, on horseback left, raising right hand
Ex N&N Collection
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On 6/4/2022 at 5:29 AM, kapphnwn said:

Alexander I Ar Oktodrachm Aigai 490=480/479 BC Obv. Horseman standing right behind horse. Rv. Quadripartite incuse square. HGC 753 28.43 grms 32 mm Photo by W. HansenalexanderIocto2.thumb.jpg.4a5603ce1e08aeb5d5785052d3af2edd.jpgFor collectors of the coinage of the Macedonian Kingdom this is where the fun begins. At one time this type was considered to have been issued by the Thraco-Macedonian tribe the Bisaltae. Subsequent research appears to have made this type one of the earliest issues of Alexander I. This individual has to be one of the slipperiest characters in Macedonian history. It seems somehow appropriate that some of his coinage is equally opaque.

Really nice Oktodrachm!

Here is my example. Not quite as good condition as yours, but I like the style, and it has an excellent provenance back to 1901. Also ex. Gillet, Jameson & Prospero collections, amongst others.

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Philip II. 359-336 BC. AR Tetradrachm (24mm; 13.61 gm; 6h). Lifetime issue. Pella mint. Struck circa 354/3-349/8 BC. Obv: Highly artistic, laureate head of Zeus right. Rev: Youth on horseback right, holding palm; star below raised foreleg, Δ below horse. Le Rider 120 (D69/R96); SNG ANS 361.

 

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Wonderful thread idea! I've often felt the Argead kings before Alexander, and certainly before Philip II, are quite overlooked, so it's nice to see them getting some love here! Here are my examples, conspiciously missing are Alexander I and Perdikkas II, though one hopes not for long. Not sure if I'll ever get around to the rarer rulers like Aeropos or Perdikkas III though.

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Archelaos, 413-399 BCE, Aigai, 10.52 g, 22mm
Obverse: Bust of Apollo facing right, wearing taenia.
Reverse: Warhorse standing right with left foreleg raised, wearing bridle with rein trailing behind; surrounded by legend APXEΛAO, "Archelaos".
 

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Amyntas III, 393-370 BCE, Aigai, 8.88g, 22mm

Obverse: Head of Herakles right, wearing lion skin.

Reverse: Horse standing to right, surrounded by legend AMYNTA, "Amyntas".

 

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Philip II, 340-334 BCE, Pella, 14.38g, 23mm
Obverse: Zeus facing right, wearing wreath of oak leaves.
Reverse: Nude youth riding warhorse, holding palm frond and wearing laurel crown; kantharos between horses legs; legend above ΦΙΛΙΠΠΟΥ, "Of Philip".

 

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Philip II (Unofficially), 356-345 BCE, Philippi (Formerly Krenides), 1.56 g, 12mm
Obverse: Youthful bust of Herakles facing right, wearing Nemean lion-pelt.
Reverse: Ceremonial tripod, grain kernel in right field. Legend ΦΙΛΙΠΠΩΝ, "Of Philippi".

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Picked up this Amyntas III diobol from Solidus the other week. It's tiny at 11mm and 1.2g with very crystalised surfaces but it looks great at 2x magnification!

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