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2 minutes ago, Spaniard said:

@expat... Remember these?

This was the year I was conceived..

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I remember them very well. I was born in 1962 and as a kid growing up in the late 60's for 3 of them you could buy a bag of sweets and a sherbet. For helping around the house you got one of these on Saturday. Heaven

 

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If we can post world coins, then I think coin weights should be OK too. I know there are people here who collect ancient (including Byzantine) coin weights, but does anyone collect old British coin weights? I don't specifically search them out, but here are three I've picked up over the years:

England, Charles I, 1625 – 1649. AE Double Crown (10 shillings) Coin Weight, Traveling Mint, 17 mm, 4.51 grams. Obv. CAROLVS REX, Crowned bust of Charles left small B below (Nicolas Briot, die cutter) / Rev. Crown above X over S [ = 10 shillings]. Withers No. 992 [Paul & Bente R. Withers, British Coin-Weights: A Corpus of Post-Conquest Coin-Weights (1993)]. Purchased from Ken Dorney 2021; ex James Pickering Collection.*

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*I'm sure many of you remember the late James Pickering, a/k/a Jamesicus at Coin Talk. He is very much missed.

The other two coin weights I have, I photographed together; the footnote applies to both.

Great Britain, George IV, Royal Mint Brass Coin Weight for Sovereign, 1821. Obv. Lion standing left over crown, ROYAL MINT • above; 1821 below / Rev. Lettering above, CURT [current] WEIGHT; lettering below, SOVEREIGN; in center, 5 . 2 ½ with DW. and GR above numbers [=  5 pennyweight, 2 ½ grains]. 20.7 mm. Withers No. 2251a.*

Great Britain, George IV, Royal Mint Brass Coin Weight for Half-Sovereign, 1821. Obv. Lion standing left over crown, ROYAL MINT • above; 1821 below / Rev. Lettering above, CURT [current] WEIGHT; lettering below, HALF SOVEREIGN; in center, 2 . 13 1/8  with DW and GR.: above numbers [=  2 pennyweight, 13 1/8 grains]. 18.9 mm. Withers No. 2251b.*

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*From Wikipedia: A pennyweight (abbreviated DW or DWT, from “d.” for penny + w or wt for weight) “is a unit of mass equal to 24 grains, 1⁄20 of a troy ounce, 1⁄240 of a troy pound, approximately 0.054857 avoirdupois ounce and exactly 1.55517384 grams.” Thus, the sovereign weight was equal to 122.5 grains, and the half-sovereign weight was equal to 61.25 grains. A grainis a unit of measurement of mass, and in the troy weight, avoirdupois, and apothecaries' systems, equal to exactly 64.79891 milligrams. It is nominally based upon the mass of a single ideal seed of a cereal.”  There are 480 grains in a troy ounce, and 437.5 grains in an avoirdupois ounce.

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@DonnaML....Very interesting pieces, thanks for sharing.

Yes I miss James too, we used to chat about areas of England where we grew up. He was a very knowledgeable numisist who greatly helped me with one of his passions, British Celtic coins.

Here's one of my favourite toned Vic rupees....

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My handful of old threepences from Charles II through Victoria (Young Head), together in their tray:

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From left to right (a couple of the dates are difficult to read, even under magnification): Charles II 1679[?]; James II 1686; William & Mary 1689; Anne 1709; George II 1760; George III 1762[?]; George IV 1822; Victoria 1874.

The only one I'm sure is a Maundy piece is the George IV: he issued no 3d coins for circulation, although I've read that some "found their way" into circulation after 1845.

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8 hours ago, Spaniard said:

@DonnaML....Very interesting pieces, thanks for sharing.

Yes I miss James too, we used to chat about areas of England where we grew up. He was a very knowledgeable numisist who greatly helped me with one of his passions, British Celtic coins.

Here's one of my favourite toned Vic rupees....

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Very nice! Here is mine:

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Some sixpences (obverses only), William III - Elizabeth II (all AR except last two are cupro-nickel):

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William III (1697), George I (1723), George II (175_?), George II (1757), George III (1816), George IV (1828), William IV (1831), Victoria Young Head (1860), Victoria Jubilee Head (1891), Victoria Old Head (1901), Edward VII (1908 & 1910), George V (1914 & 1924), George VI (1952), Elizabeth II (1962).

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Commemorative issue 150th anniversary - Immigration to America

Obverse Den norske løve [The Norwegian Lion]

Lettering:
KONGE
RIKET
NORGE
5 KRONER

Engraver: Øivind Hansen

Reverse Sailing ship, The “Restaurasjonen”(Restoration) sloop.

Lettering:
VEIEN MOT VEST
1825-1975
AB ØH

Translation: The road to the west

Engraver: Øivind Hansen

On July 5 1825 the sloop Restaurasjonen left from Stavanger with 52 people aboard. Arrived in New York October 5. This is considered to be the first organized emigration party to leave from Norway.

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Directoire /Consulat - Un Décime l'An 8 A - Atelier de Paris

DIRECTOIRE (26/10/1795-9-10/11/1799)/ CONSULAT (9-10/11/1799-18/05/1804) - Un Décime grand module
.REPUBLIQUE - FRANÇAISE.* Buste drapé de la Liberté à gauche coiffée du bonnet phrygien, signature Dupré à l'exergue
UN / DECIME / L'AN 8 . / A en quatre lignes, dans une couronne de chêne
21,14 gr - 32 mm
Ref : Le Franc 10 # 129/27, Gadoury # 187a

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Directoire /Consulat - Un Décime l'An 8 A - Atelier de Paris

DIRECTOIRE (26/10/1795-9-10/11/1799)/ CONSULAT (9-10/11/1799-18/05/1804) - Un Décime grand module
.REPUBLIQUE - FRANÇAISE.* Buste drapé de la Liberté à gauche coiffée du bonnet phrygien, signature Dupré à l'exergue
UN / DECIME / L'AN 8 . / A en quatre lignes, dans une couronne de chêne
21,14 gr - 32 mm
Ref : Le Franc 10 # 129/27, Gadoury # 187a

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Lovely example of this type.  It inspired me to post a couple of uglies - an overstrike and a countermark from the era:

Here's the overstrike - as you can see, it didn't work out so well:

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France  L’An 5 (1796-1797) First Republic, Directory 1 Décime over 2 Décimes  Paris Mint / Limoges Mint Overstruck on 2 decime, n.d. (L’An  4-5 1795-1797) from the Paris Mint (?) KM 645.1 (20.53 grams / 30 mm) eBay Aug. 2018       Lot @ $0.25 

Here's the later countermark, apparently issued when the full overstrike was not a success - my example is fairly attractive, but it is rather light-weight; should be 20 grams, but this is only 14.51 grams, so it might be a fake:

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France L’An 5 (1796-1797) First Republic, Directory 1 Décime over 2 Décimes Paris Mint Host Coin:  Two Décimes L’An 5 (1796-1797), KM 638 Countermark:  UN stamped over 2 and S effaced KM 637.1 (14.51 grams / 31 x 30 mm) eBay Aug. 2022

Notes:  "In October of 1796, the French government ordered the earlier 2 Décimes coppers to be overstruck as 1 Décime coins. ...the overstriking was remarkably difficult, and the mint found themselves unable to produce a clear enough strike so as to obliterate the undertype. A simpler expedient was adopted: a counterstamp of the word UN." CNG  Note:  Host coin is very light  for this type; should be 20 grams;  possible counterfeit? 

 

 

 

 

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Chinese metal tally

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Changzhou, Minghuang
Metal tally
Av: 10, standing figure, 壹角 yi jiao = one jiao.
Figure holding shield with inscription 鳴凰, Minghuang.
Rv: 周文记, Zhou Wen Ji
No. 5316
Material: bronze, 73x8 mm, 6.75g
Origin: Minghuang, small town south of Changzhou
Ref: Yuan Tao, Temporary coins of Changzhou, Plate 563

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Chineses Bamboo Tally

 

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Bambus-Tally, Suzhou 
Av: 伍 拾 , Wu Shi (50)
发特台, Fa te tai (Special counter)
Rv: 福 ? 第壹佰拾四號, Fu ? di yi bai shi si hao (Happiness - illegible sign - number 140)
Material: Bamboo

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